Tire Age & Question
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#12
For me on all my vehicles 5 years max on the vehicle…6 years max by date code. They may look good…but they harden and that significantly impacts traction.
my new to me 510 Hp ‘15 Jaguar had 5 year old tires, and it spent its life in Florida. Coming out of a curve, even with traction control and stability control I gave it a bit of throttle and the *** end broke loose. New tires now, same curve, more gas…no breakaway.
oh yeah…what about that traction control????
my new to me 510 Hp ‘15 Jaguar had 5 year old tires, and it spent its life in Florida. Coming out of a curve, even with traction control and stability control I gave it a bit of throttle and the *** end broke loose. New tires now, same curve, more gas…no breakaway.
oh yeah…what about that traction control????
#13
you can get slip even on a new tire. the reason why i like the english tire over the sport tire. i can break traction on a sport tire at 70mph on a wet road. it is more than the compound used or how old. ever drove on a brick street?? i went through an intersection sideways on my 1974 fx, brick has a very low coefficient of friction compared to asphalt or concrete. that said, old concrete with aggregate showing through can be a bear also.
#14
you can get slip even on a new tire. the reason why i like the english tire over the sport tire. i can break traction on a sport tire at 70mph on a wet road. it is more than the compound used or how old. ever drove on a brick street?? i went through an intersection sideways on my 1974 fx, brick has a very low coefficient of friction compared to asphalt or concrete. that said, old concrete with aggregate showing through can be a bear also.
In science, sometimes a way of testing a theory is to test it at extremes…even if they are unlikely or even unrealistic extremes. If you don’t think the newness of a tire, or pliability of the compound has an impact on traction on irregular surfaces…test it at the extremes. Create a semi rough asphalt surface, create blocks of materiel of different types and same size. Place a concrete block on top of each, on tbe surface and pull with a spring guage…surprise…the newer rubber will take the most force to pull.
Repeat in different surfaces…
#16
#17
read mr tg
i said that the compound and such isn't all there is.
the # 1 aspect is contact patch
hummmmmm, maybe 2"
that is why i can break traction and laying on the mushroom isn't any better. that is why i prefer english tire, aka, flat bottom with full contact across the width. yes, it will handle diff but it also gives you more road feel. i prefer a little english in the turn than a feeling of rolling over. i can smoke a sport tire in a little over 2k.
ever run a mexican tire??? they are built for the mexican roads and will perform terribly on usa roads and wet conditions.
i said that the compound and such isn't all there is.
the # 1 aspect is contact patch
hummmmmm, maybe 2"
that is why i can break traction and laying on the mushroom isn't any better. that is why i prefer english tire, aka, flat bottom with full contact across the width. yes, it will handle diff but it also gives you more road feel. i prefer a little english in the turn than a feeling of rolling over. i can smoke a sport tire in a little over 2k.
ever run a mexican tire??? they are built for the mexican roads and will perform terribly on usa roads and wet conditions.
#18
geeze…nobody said you wouldn’t break traction on a new tire. But, the newer the tire the better the grip, on dry, wet, Sandy, gravely roads. Part of traction is the abi,it y of the tire to confirm to surface irregularities.
In science, sometimes a way of testing a theory is to test it at extremes…even if they are unlikely or even unrealistic extremes. If you don’t think the newness of a tire, or pliability of the compound has an impact on traction on irregular surfaces…test it at the extremes. Create a semi rough asphalt surface, create blocks of materiel of different types and same size. Place a concrete block on top of each, on tbe surface and pull with a spring guage…surprise…the newer rubber will take the most force to pull.
Repeat in different surfaces…
In science, sometimes a way of testing a theory is to test it at extremes…even if they are unlikely or even unrealistic extremes. If you don’t think the newness of a tire, or pliability of the compound has an impact on traction on irregular surfaces…test it at the extremes. Create a semi rough asphalt surface, create blocks of materiel of different types and same size. Place a concrete block on top of each, on tbe surface and pull with a spring guage…surprise…the newer rubber will take the most force to pull.
Repeat in different surfaces…
Last edited by NorthWestern; 07-13-2024 at 09:52 AM.
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