Originally Posted by Max Headflow

Well Muskrat, you've been subjected to the wrath of rounders. May God have mercy on your soul..

Originally Posted by brakeless

The wrath? More like some mental inability to stop. Maybe he should join ON and ON ANON.

Sounds better said than written....

Originally Posted by Rounders

We need more Red Foreman's.

​​​​​​I understand oil and tranny plug mix up.

He then sucks it out of pan, about a foot from plug he pulled.

He then started that engine semi dry. I don't think it hurt though, but ______.

Originally Posted by Rounders

You pulled what you thought was plug. That didn't work so you used vac pump.this tells me you should not work on anything.

You should have stopped and figured out what you did wrong. Do you think people use vac pumps to change oil??!

Originally Posted by Rounders

All that wrench on you did,did you ever drain oil with a pump?

What I meant about starting engine dry is , you drained oil from crank. Normally if I had engine open I would dump oil in bottom end.

Probably fine metal is wet. If you have not started yet turning over with plugs out or rotating tire to operate pump .

I have done lots of stupid stuff. But draining oil with vac pump is not one of them.

Originally Posted by Rounders

Maybe you use more advance techniques than me. But when oil doesn't come out when you take plug out, don't you think you should stop and find the right plug? Was the idea to never use the plug again? Not get the manual? Not look at engineer to see the tank and dipstick were no where near the plug, were separate bodies.

I am not faulting you for the wrong plug. I am faulting you for not stopping what you were doing and carrying on.

Originally Posted by Rounders

My opinion stands. When nothing came out. He should have stopped. He kept on his path by sucking out oil. He should have stopped and figured out what he did wrong.

Plus when he sucked out the oil, it didn't cross his mind how far the plug was from where he was sucking??

Originally Posted by Rounders

I have a 2001 TC. There are three plugs, oil pan, tranny, and the one on the bottom end of the engine. My understanding is you opened the one on the engine rather than the oil pan. A few ounces came out. You then sucked out out the oil from oil pan, rather than looking for the plug on the oil pan.

Is this correct? If so, my point was, you should have stopped. And figured out what you did wrong

Again probably not end of world. The crank and bearings would have residual oil on them. When I open up the bottom end, and drain all the oil like you did, I dump some oil back in when assembling. But again, everything on your bike is probably coated in oil since not all of it drains.


I don't fault you removing the wrong plug, though I think it is easier to mix up tranny and engine oil. But you should have stopped when only a few ounces came out and figured out what you are doing wrong. when something is wrong, you need to stop.

Originally Posted by Rounders

So what plug did you pull that had only a few ounces of oil drain, and had you then sucking it out of the oil pan?

Originally Posted by Rounders

So he was riding the bike with just a chemical you added to the oil, but no fluid?

Also the son added 3.5 quarts of oil to the engine oil pan, and it did not overflow? It held 7 or 8 quarts of oil?

Originally Posted by Rounders

I call BS. Added a quart, when it takes 3.5-4 quarts of oil? Just dumped one in, and stopped??

Originally Posted by Rounders

But he is still denying it. You go read is follow up posts and compare to his first post.


Something is fishy.