TC88: working on the Cam Chest for the first time
#11
djl - great idea except I do not have much oil to work with. The owner had drained the engine oil and swapped out the oil filter before he brought me the bike. A small amount of oil was in the Cam chest but I wiped that up first day I pulled the Cam plate off.
Definitely going to make a note about Blackstone, as it will be very useful for testing what is going on inside of other engines.
I was thinking when I button the bike up, of using some Dino Oil for first start up, then doing an oil change after it warms up.
It's a very interesting project: I'm doing so many new things and learning along the way as well as building up my set of shop tools.
Definitely going to make a note about Blackstone, as it will be very useful for testing what is going on inside of other engines.
I was thinking when I button the bike up, of using some Dino Oil for first start up, then doing an oil change after it warms up.
It's a very interesting project: I'm doing so many new things and learning along the way as well as building up my set of shop tools.
#12
To me the pump looks fine.. I suspect that any metal shavings fell to the bottom of the cam case and weren't sucked up by the pump. If they were, they were small enough to not to any damage.
Personally in cases like this there should be considerable particulate matter that would be identifiable on the drain plug.. Not sure what value Blackstone would provide.. IMO BS is better at identifying accelerated engine wear in motors due to improper oil use..
Here is a video on such an example..
Personally in cases like this there should be considerable particulate matter that would be identifiable on the drain plug.. Not sure what value Blackstone would provide.. IMO BS is better at identifying accelerated engine wear in motors due to improper oil use..
Here is a video on such an example..
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Rusty Springs (07-27-2024)
#13
To me the pump looks fine.. I suspect that any metal shavings fell to the bottom of the cam case and weren't sucked up by the pump. If they were, they were small enough to not to any damage.
Personally in cases like this there should be considerable particulate matter that would be identifiable on the drain plug.. Not sure what value Blackstone would provide.. IMO BS is better at identifying accelerated engine wear in motors due to improper oil use..
Personally in cases like this there should be considerable particulate matter that would be identifiable on the drain plug.. Not sure what value Blackstone would provide.. IMO BS is better at identifying accelerated engine wear in motors due to improper oil use..
#14
Max, agree. However, if the OP is considering pulling the pan, a Blackstone report will show if there is metal, etc. is traveling in the oil, or not. A good report should give the OP the confidence to pass on the oil pan R/R and also provide the owner with the information you make reference to. I have relied on a BS report twice over the years to make that call.
#15
I would like to see a picture of the outer side of the cam plate where the pinion shaft rides.. To much pinion run-out will wear away at the plate and create a lip in the housing..
The wear pattern on the pinion shaft does indicate some run-out .. Have you measured the run-out??
Also you still have not mentioned the year..
The wear pattern on the pinion shaft does indicate some run-out .. Have you measured the run-out??
Also you still have not mentioned the year..
#16
I would like to see a picture of the outer side of the cam plate where the pinion shaft rides.. To much pinion run-out will wear away at the plate and create a lip in the housing..
The wear pattern on the pinion shaft does indicate some run-out .. Have you measured the run-out??
Also you still have not mentioned the year..
The wear pattern on the pinion shaft does indicate some run-out .. Have you measured the run-out??
Also you still have not mentioned the year..
#17
Max, agree. However, if the OP is considering pulling the pan, a Blackstone report will show if there is metal, etc. is traveling in the oil, or not. A good report should give the OP the confidence to pass on the oil pan R/R and also provide the owner with the information you make reference to. I have relied on a BS report twice over the years to make that call.
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Fat11Lo (07-29-2024)
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#19
Understood, no oil, no sample, no report but the suggestion stands. Once the OP completes the cam chest work, he can start the motor and collect a sample before changing oil and filter.
#20
I ran my oil pump for 90k. I replaced with a fueling, non race model. Dennis Kirk does have some cheap tawain stuff, as you have seen, and it s probably fine. But I like name brand for some stuff. I am still running the stock cam plate.
Get the tools for inner and outer cam bearings.
If the cam plate is bad, I'd probably go upgrade retro fit hydraulic tensioners. If good might consider the cyro tensioner pads. I went gear on mine, none of these were available then. 2004 does not have timken bearing. Timkens were not always in spec for run out either.
Get the tools for inner and outer cam bearings.
If the cam plate is bad, I'd probably go upgrade retro fit hydraulic tensioners. If good might consider the cyro tensioner pads. I went gear on mine, none of these were available then. 2004 does not have timken bearing. Timkens were not always in spec for run out either.