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Old 10-21-2023 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
So it failed my criteria.. Got a caliper? If you could, measure rocker shaft hole to rocker shaft hole on the ones you removed.. Also measure from the hole to the bottom surface..
Sure I can do that. Tomorrow prob.
 
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Old 10-21-2023 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mchad
You JUST told me to leave it alone! Now you want me to add more preload? You guys love F’ing with me!


I was thinking about picking up a set of SE tapered pushrods when I put the new rockers in the front. They look like a nicely designed set. The FuelMoto ones are getting a little beaten up from the repeated adjustment. Maybe when I do that.

what will the additional preload buy me?
I don't think anybody's changed more cams than I have in my personal bikes ( maybe an exaggeration) but between my three different personal bikes (Shovel, Evo and TC) I probably had 15 different cams easily and countless numbers of lifters and adjustments... And no I didn't use the same set of pushrods in three different types of motor because the lengths are totally different.. K @Max Headflow I'm still using the same pushrods in each motor that I originally built the motor with... but if you want to get new ones that's totally up to you.. I don't think there's anything beat up with yours unless you abused them trying to tighten them with improperly fitting wrenches, they should be fine.. But whatever makes you happy..

Additional preload helps to maintain a reasonable preload as the motor expands from heat
 

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Old 10-21-2023 | 04:19 PM
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I just measured
stock push rods @.375"
S&S push rods @.440"
Fuel Moto push rods @.435
Both S&S and Fuel Moto are very good push rods.. why would you want to go to a tapered pushrod.. Do you know what the diameter tapers down to? Which most likely would cause more flex especially with your build with the 9F cams.. I'm sure you have high spring seat pressure.. Doesn't make sense to me..

If anyone has a set of the SE tapered adjustable push rods, if you could measure at the base of the coupler for the push rod and at the top I'd like to know what the taper and diameter is.. Thank you..

Whatever you do at least stick with 32 TPI pushrods

I also just measured the ball ends and S&S pushrods are the same as stock for the diameter of the ball ends which means that the radius of the ball end is most likely as well.. The fuel motor pushrods have a different diameter on their ball ends by .010" smaller on the top and .020" of smaller on the bottom. I would think that would make for a different radii and contact pressure with the lifter.. I don't know if it makes a difference but I would like to see more material contacting each other when it comes to the ball end of the push rod and the lifter.. just a note..
 

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Old 10-21-2023 | 04:30 PM
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Been lurking/following. If it were mine, and I hate valve train noise, I would get that motor up to operating temps, per Max, and if it sounds the same then as it does in that video, put the tools away and ride.
 
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Old 10-21-2023 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
So it failed my criteria.. Got a caliper? If you could, measure rocker shaft hole to rocker shaft hole on the ones you removed.. Also measure from the hole to the bottom surface..
I think it was pretty clear in the pictures that he posted that the rockers put the pushrods out of center causing the whole incident... Which by the way can only be changed by the machining of the rocker plates.. Unless Vulcan used Tiawan Teds or Chiwanese rockers..
 

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Old 10-21-2023 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
I don't think anybody's changed more cams than I have in my personal bikes.. Between the three bikes probably 15 different cams easily and countless numbers of lifters and adjustments... I'm still using the same old push rods but if you want to get new ones that's totally up to you.. I don't think there's anything beat up with yours unless you abused them trying to tighten them with improperly fitting wrenches, they should be fine.. But whatever makes you happy..

Additional preload helps to maintain a reasonable preload as the motor expands from heat .

You used the same set of pushrods on 3 bikes?
 
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Old 10-21-2023 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
You used the same set of pushrods on 3 bikes?
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Old 10-21-2023 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
You used the same set of pushrods on 3 bikes?
Max, you gotta be single.
 
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Old 10-21-2023 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ntraindavefl
Max, you gotta be single.
I think he was trying to create a little confusion with me.. At times he has a tendency to question what does not need clarification..
 

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Old 10-21-2023 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
I think he was trying to create a little confusion with me.. At times he has a tendency to question what does not need clarification..
Nah,, Just giving you a bad time for the way you worded it..

BTW,, 18 cams ,6 MCs the last 25 years..
 
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