Yeah pretty sure that was my clutch cable breaking where it goes into the trans

 

It sounds like you may have had the ball and ramp lever over center berfore adjusting - seen people do that a lot and the result is a very hard pull with little or no release. If that was the case and you were really pulling on it hard, you may have broken the little piece that hooks the cable to the release or the end of the cable itself.

1) Loosen cable and make sure that the lever arm in the trans side cover (can see the cable through the dipstick) is pushed all the way to the back of the bike.
2) Adjust clutch
3) Adjust cable

If the cable is broke, you already know what to do.

If not and if you were reefing on it and heard a pop and had a ton of slack, you may be needing to inspect the release mechanism and the clutch side components. I would start with making sure it's adjusted as above, If the adjustment then keeps changing, you may have a damaged release bearing or the snap ring might have popped out on the clutch side.

 

I'm out of time to mess with it for today and I'm going to have to do some research to try to comprehend what your telling me. at this point though I'm getting discouraged and thinking I have probably done more harm than good and shouldn't have tried wrenching on it to begin with knowing that wrenching has never been my thing. my shop appointment is coming up In less than a week so I might just let him clean up my mess.. I definitely need to research the first part of your post in hopes I don't do this again in the future. by ball and ramp I'm guessing your talkin about the part with 3 ***** on the opposite side near where the cable connects? what causes the ball to be over center and how do I check for that next time before making the same mistake?

 

Try slacking the cable so you have about 1/2 lever swing.

Loosen the nut on the clutch and screw the adjuster in until you see the pressure plates move.

Try to move the lever. Pull it so it's tight and let the lever snap free.

Does the lever free play change?

If so slacken the cable more and repeat.

 

Thanks for all the pure advice in this thread...going to adjust clutch now due to all your help. Hope @The Outlaw finds solutions to what he needs. Be patient Outlaw...a little here, a little there and you will be riding carefree soon.

 

I have the adjusters on the cable screwed as far apart as they will go and the lover still barely comes off the bar and when I try to let the lever spring free if I don't hold the cable and place it pops out of the little fitting where the cable cover meets the lever but it seems like no matter what I do the inner cable is not moving inside its cover. I'm not sure how I screwed this up so bad this is supposed to be one of the easy things that everybody can do like changing the oil.

 

Screw the cable in so you have play at the bars. The fact that the cable adjust is at the end of it's travel is evidence you screwed up.

 

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Even with the adjuster screw the whole way apart the lever is still almost Touching The Handlebar if I screw the adjuster all the way together how am I supposed to squeeze the lever to let it spring free when it is already hanging there limp against the bar? I don't need proof to know that I somehow managed to screw it up I admitted that a couple of posts ago I have no problem admitting when I do something stupid. I definitely did more harm than good considering before I adjusted the clutch I actually had a working clutch even if it didn't work perfectly, now I have no clutch and a bike I can't ride. The thing that I'm curious about is what exactly I did to screw it up so that I don't do it again.

 

First off being stupid and screwing up are 2 different things. Stupid it a permanent issue. Screwing up is only temporary..

Here, it is does sound like something shifted. Pull the tranny dipstick and check to see if the cable is still attached to the arm. I'd also check to see if the snap ring that holds the adjuster plate in the clutch pressure plate is still in place.

 

If I were to close that adjuster the whole way I wouldn't be able to turn the clutch adjuster to take up Slack could I? I don't know why I just now thought of that but it couldn't really be that simple could it?