mystery motor on 05 deluxe?
#11
how hard is it to compression test one of these? my buddy had a kit we used for single cyl 2strokes but I have a feeling this would be alot more complicated.
on a side note I'm not sure if it makes me lucky or unlucky that this is my fourth hd and the first that had a faulty fuel guage. I was so used to all mine working that I forgot some of the first advice I was given when I started riding was "never trust a fuel guage that comes free with a hd" I was loosing it for a second when she started cutting out before my brain started catching up lol. 5.08gal to fill...
I'm trying to decide if I want to try emailing the shop local to where the first owner lived or take the time to ride over.. id like to just email because im not a very social person but I think showing up would probably have better results. they may even recognize the bike.
I need to get on the ball and pick up the haynes/Clymer manual for it and make some adjustments. I also need to research tuners and consider getting one. for all i know it has a crap tune that is set for fuel economy or something..
so far i need to:
roll apes forward
take freeplay out of throttle
add freeplay to clutch lever
remove heel shifter
adjust pegs on crash bar
on a side note I'm not sure if it makes me lucky or unlucky that this is my fourth hd and the first that had a faulty fuel guage. I was so used to all mine working that I forgot some of the first advice I was given when I started riding was "never trust a fuel guage that comes free with a hd" I was loosing it for a second when she started cutting out before my brain started catching up lol. 5.08gal to fill...
I'm trying to decide if I want to try emailing the shop local to where the first owner lived or take the time to ride over.. id like to just email because im not a very social person but I think showing up would probably have better results. they may even recognize the bike.
I need to get on the ball and pick up the haynes/Clymer manual for it and make some adjustments. I also need to research tuners and consider getting one. for all i know it has a crap tune that is set for fuel economy or something..
so far i need to:
roll apes forward
take freeplay out of throttle
add freeplay to clutch lever
remove heel shifter
adjust pegs on crash bar
Last edited by The Outlaw; 03-10-2021 at 08:40 PM.
#12
Checking compression is easy; plenty of You Tube videos. Forget the Clymer manual and spring for the HD service manual; best tool to have on the bench. How "social" do you have to be to show up and inquire about your bike? Look into the Power Vision tuner; pretty much the "go to" fuel management system these days.
#13
The advertised 103 could very well be a 95" motor but a compression test will tell us a lot.
Not sure how you come up with 10.5:1 static with "basic HD big bore cylinders and pistons"; it's actually about 9:1. OEM head gasket is .045", deck height is -.003" to -'005", chamber volume is +/-85cc and piston dome volume is -1.5". If your 95" motor makes 10.5 static, the pistons must have domes and/or the heads have been decked; if they haven't your 95" isn't making 10.5:1. Let's do this. Run a compression test on your 95 and have a compression test run of the 103" motor and let's compare.
Not sure how you come up with 10.5:1 static with "basic HD big bore cylinders and pistons"; it's actually about 9:1. OEM head gasket is .045", deck height is -.003" to -'005", chamber volume is +/-85cc and piston dome volume is -1.5". If your 95" motor makes 10.5 static, the pistons must have domes and/or the heads have been decked; if they haven't your 95" isn't making 10.5:1. Let's do this. Run a compression test on your 95 and have a compression test run of the 103" motor and let's compare.
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#15
is that right?? I'm totally cool with dropping $439 on the power vision but spending almost a thousand on the setup is something I don't think I could bring myself to do. I'm hoping I misunderstood how that works. I can see spending $439 because it is the best when all the competition is around $250 but spending over $800 when the competition is $250 seems kind of crazy.
#17
I hope I'm misunderstanding how that works lol... from what I gather because the bike is a 2005 I would have to buy the power Vision tuner for $439 then by the auto-tune kit for another $400.
is that right?? I'm totally cool with dropping $439 on the power vision but spending almost a thousand on the setup is something I don't think I could bring myself to do. I'm hoping I misunderstood how that works. I can see spending $439 because it is the best when all the competition is around $250 but spending over $800 when the competition is $250 seems kind of crazy.
is that right?? I'm totally cool with dropping $439 on the power vision but spending almost a thousand on the setup is something I don't think I could bring myself to do. I'm hoping I misunderstood how that works. I can see spending $439 because it is the best when all the competition is around $250 but spending over $800 when the competition is $250 seems kind of crazy.
#18
I hope I'm misunderstanding how that works lol... from what I gather because the bike is a 2005 I would have to buy the power Vision tuner for $439 then by the auto-tune kit for another $400.
is that right?? I'm totally cool with dropping $439 on the power vision but spending almost a thousand on the setup is something I don't think I could bring myself to do. I'm hoping I misunderstood how that works. I can see spending $439 because it is the best when all the competition is around $250 but spending over $800 when the competition is $250 seems kind of crazy.
is that right?? I'm totally cool with dropping $439 on the power vision but spending almost a thousand on the setup is something I don't think I could bring myself to do. I'm hoping I misunderstood how that works. I can see spending $439 because it is the best when all the competition is around $250 but spending over $800 when the competition is $250 seems kind of crazy.
No need for the auto tune feature. If interested in DIY tuning and a less expensive option, check out the V&H FP3. The system gets great reviews online as does V&H tech support. Plenty of YouTube reviews and tutorials online that claim the system is easy to install, app for your smart phone, etc. Of course, it's not a substitute for a dyno tune but lots of guys very happy with the system.
Last edited by djl; 03-13-2021 at 05:42 PM.
#19
once I know what im dealing with for sure that will make the tuner choice alot easier. the more I thought about it the better the pv w/ target tune sounded but if I've got a bum cam setup or some other issue thats robbing performance skipping the target tune/ auto tune to fund the replacement of those parts might be a better option for me. she was struggling to get much above 90mph riding into a real strong wind today but I think I make a pretty good parachute to catch wind and slow it down. speed was still climbing but REAL slow like.
maybe I'm overlooking simple stuff and jumping into expensive solutions lol for all I know someone may have changed gearing at belt or something. first gear near idle does take quite a bit of clutch manipulation to keep slow enough for maneuvering in tight spaces and doing u-turns. I don't remember my 96" wideglide being like that. my sporty definitely wasn't lol seemed like that thing could almost do a figure 8 in a single parking space after riding the wg.
hoping to make it to dealer this week to see what I can find out. once I know what I have I guess I could atleast order the tuner with a map from FM and decide from there what route to go. Hopefully I'll be able to get my buddies compression tester set up in the next day or two and see what we're working with there
maybe I'm overlooking simple stuff and jumping into expensive solutions lol for all I know someone may have changed gearing at belt or something. first gear near idle does take quite a bit of clutch manipulation to keep slow enough for maneuvering in tight spaces and doing u-turns. I don't remember my 96" wideglide being like that. my sporty definitely wasn't lol seemed like that thing could almost do a figure 8 in a single parking space after riding the wg.
hoping to make it to dealer this week to see what I can find out. once I know what I have I guess I could atleast order the tuner with a map from FM and decide from there what route to go. Hopefully I'll be able to get my buddies compression tester set up in the next day or two and see what we're working with there
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hoping to make it to dealer this week to see what I can find out. once I know what I have I guess I could atleast order the tuner with a map from FM and decide from there what route to go. Hopefully I'll be able to get my buddies compression tester set up in the next day or two and see what we're working with there
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