Please Explain
#1
07-06-2013, 05:30 PM
Please Explain
The difference between a reflash of the ECM and a Stage 1 download. Have a 09 Tri w/AN big sucker with an open filter element and Rush slips at 1.75 left and 2.00 right. I'm on the confusion bus with all this tech jargon reading a lot more than I need to set this rig to better performance standards. Don't plan of Cams maybe till winter and till than the less money spent will help in winter. How difficult is Power Vision to work with being a novice, reflash or download? The choices are making me dizzy.
#3
07-06-2013, 05:52 PM
#4
07-06-2013, 07:08 PM
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I'm not very knowledgable with tuners, but when I go that route, I'll go with a TTS Supertuner, from what I have read and what Wizzard has told be and stated in the ABC sticky, it seams like the best, I know Fuelmoto also makes a good tuner, but I just like what I've read about TTS.. just my opinion.
Both of these tuners will allow you to upgrat as you like or even go back to completely stock setup...
Both of these tuners will allow you to upgrat as you like or even go back to completely stock setup...
#5
07-06-2013, 11:28 PM
When our dealer added the stage 1 kits to the trike, he reflashed the computer. 5000 miles later when we it serviced he said he reflashed it again with an updated version. The trike seems to run good. We did the Harley intake with Rush slip-ons.
Last edited by bikerbum; 07-07-2013 at 12:01 PM.
#6
07-07-2013, 06:36 AM
I'm not very knowledgable with tuners, but when I go that route, I'll go with a TTS Supertuner, from what I have read and what Wizzard has told be and stated in the ABC sticky, it seams like the best, I know Fuelmoto also makes a good tuner, but I just like what I've read about TTS.. just my opinion.
Both of these tuners will allow you to upgrat as you like or even go back to completely stock setup...
Both of these tuners will allow you to upgrat as you like or even go back to completely stock setup...
#7
07-07-2013, 02:39 PM
I'm not very knowledgable with tuners, but when I go that route, I'll go with a TTS Supertuner, from what I have read and what Wizzard has told be and stated in the ABC sticky, it seams like the best, I know Fuelmoto also makes a good tuner, but I just like what I've read about TTS.. just my opinion.
Both of these tuners will allow you to upgrat as you like or even go back to completely stock setup...
Both of these tuners will allow you to upgrat as you like or even go back to completely stock setup...
I am still working my way through the 100+ Power Vision sticky on here but from reading several threads and personal experience with a PV I would not agree the TTS is the stand alone number 1 tuner on the market folks are still trying to make it out to be.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/elect...admin-124.html
Last edited by xantasm; 07-07-2013 at 03:37 PM.
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#9
07-07-2013, 03:35 PM
I've had a power vision for about the last year and they updated the firmware last year to add an auto tune function on the tuner using either the stock narrow band O2 sensors or the wideband O2 sensor upgrade kit. Anytime I want to fine tune the program to the ECM I hit the AT button on the display screen which prompts me to load a previously saved tune and restart the bike, once restarted I enable AT again and start datalog while I am riding, stop datalog when I stop, then save the tune to one of 6 stored slots on the tuner and flash the ECM with the new tune. Next time I restart my bike it has an auto tuned program saved into the ECM and if I want I can unplug my Power Vision and leave it at home. All on a touch screen display I can use on my handlebar mount. I used it on my last bike and then bought an unlock to use it on my trike and because it does not require the tuner to be present since it flashes the ECM the next person to buy my old bike gets a bike already autotuned and is free to run whatever kind of tuner they like.
I am still working my way through the 100+ Power Vision sticky on here but from reading several threads and personal experience with a PV I see zero benefit to the TTS over the PV and I don't need to strap a laptop to my bike to datalog like you do with a TTS. So buy what you like but the TTS is not the stand alone number 1 tuner on the market folks are still trying to make it out to be.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/elect...admin-124.html
I am still working my way through the 100+ Power Vision sticky on here but from reading several threads and personal experience with a PV I see zero benefit to the TTS over the PV and I don't need to strap a laptop to my bike to datalog like you do with a TTS. So buy what you like but the TTS is not the stand alone number 1 tuner on the market folks are still trying to make it out to be.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/elect...admin-124.html
The options to fine tune with the TTS vs the PV is quite amazing. FWIW pretty soon the TTS will support V-Tuning without toting a lap top if someone is inclined to do so. I have a designated laptop which I use for tuning and uploading only, I also hook a remote 7" monitor on the bars to use for V-Tuning.
#10
07-07-2013, 03:41 PM
