New Mods Report
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New Mods Report
My two latest mods are a Fuel Moto Jackpot Stainless Steel Head Pipes and a Wood Performance “Knight Prowler” TW6-6 Camshafts. It’s still a little to chilly (70ish) in the desert southwest to accurately report on the heat reduction capabilities of the Jackpot Head pipes but I can report with complete certainty that the combination of the Jackpot Head Pipes along with the Wood TW6-6 Cams produce an awesome performance increase for the Tri-Glide!
I never considered my 2009 TG to be a dog; I always felt that for what it is and it’s size and weight, that the performance was adequately respectable. IMO, these two mods have transformed my “adequately respectable” trike into a powerful 3-wheel Cheetah! The new head pipes even make it sound more powerful and are considerably louder with a nice deep rumble sound. I realize that sound/noise is very subjective and I can understand why some may think these pipes are too loud but to my ears, they have a pleasant tone. The back pressure “popping sound” from my existing Vance & Hines Oval Slip-ons at deceleration is gone and now replaced with a nice little burbling sound. I suspect that is due to the straighter unrestricted exhaust flow design of the Jackpot Head Pipe.
The low end torque on the Wood TW6-6 cam is fantastic; as a matter of fact, the TW6-6 provides a noticeable power increase throughout all of the gears. I was unable to detect any bad manners from this cam; it has a nice little lope at idle but definitely not bone rattling, nor will it vibrate any parts off your bike; just enough pulse to let you know it’s there. During the 139.6 mile trip that I rode my TG after the installation of these mods, I have not experienced any bog or hesitation upon rapid acceleration nor have I experienced any detonation problems with the cam; this was a real concern of mine due to the fact that we only have 91 octane w/ethanol available in my area.
A 140 miles probably isn’t enough to completely evaluate the performance under all types of riding conditions and terrains but I was anxious to give my first impressions because I know that several forum members are sitting on the fence trying to decide what if anything to do. I’m a bit reluctant to even mention this because I realize that 70ish degree temps aren’t an accurate indicator of how these mod’s will perform in warmer (hot) weather but the highest engine oil temp on this 139.6, 3 hour non-stop loop ride was 230 degrees @ an IOAT of just under 80 degrees with the fairing lovers closed and the Big Sky Oil Cooler Fan and LeNale Cylinder Fan OFF. Therefore I’m cautiously optimistic that these mod’s may…just may give me the heat reduction I’m seeking! One very positive indicator that these head pipes do not retain heat like the stock one’s is that upon parking the bike; that loud heat contraction ticking sound from the pipes is now gone; there is a little but nowhere as loud or as long as with the stock head pipes.
Our 100 degree heat season should be arriving in the desert southwest in about another month; so I will be in a better position to evaluate on the heat reduction performance of these mods at that time!
Footnote:
As pleased as I am with my two Fuel Moto mods (so far) I have to say that I’m a little disappointed in Fuel Moto! You would think that after spending close to a thousand dollars with them; they could see it in their heart to afford to through in 2-75 cent bung plugs or at minimum, at least tell the customer that the plugs are not included with the head pipes. Living in a small rural community, it was impossible to find any 12mm X 1.25 pitch thread plugs; I had to travel 35 miles to another town just to locate some appropriate size bolts that I could put in the unused bungs…unnecessary aggravation! Just my take on a company that prides itself on customer service; hopefully my commentary will help them learn from this incident and they will take measures to prevent future customers from being unnecessarily inconvenienced!
In all fairness to Fuel Moto and in an effort to end this post on a positive note; Jamie was most helpful in promptly downloading a revised MAP for my PC-V for which I’m very appreciative!
I never considered my 2009 TG to be a dog; I always felt that for what it is and it’s size and weight, that the performance was adequately respectable. IMO, these two mods have transformed my “adequately respectable” trike into a powerful 3-wheel Cheetah! The new head pipes even make it sound more powerful and are considerably louder with a nice deep rumble sound. I realize that sound/noise is very subjective and I can understand why some may think these pipes are too loud but to my ears, they have a pleasant tone. The back pressure “popping sound” from my existing Vance & Hines Oval Slip-ons at deceleration is gone and now replaced with a nice little burbling sound. I suspect that is due to the straighter unrestricted exhaust flow design of the Jackpot Head Pipe.
The low end torque on the Wood TW6-6 cam is fantastic; as a matter of fact, the TW6-6 provides a noticeable power increase throughout all of the gears. I was unable to detect any bad manners from this cam; it has a nice little lope at idle but definitely not bone rattling, nor will it vibrate any parts off your bike; just enough pulse to let you know it’s there. During the 139.6 mile trip that I rode my TG after the installation of these mods, I have not experienced any bog or hesitation upon rapid acceleration nor have I experienced any detonation problems with the cam; this was a real concern of mine due to the fact that we only have 91 octane w/ethanol available in my area.
A 140 miles probably isn’t enough to completely evaluate the performance under all types of riding conditions and terrains but I was anxious to give my first impressions because I know that several forum members are sitting on the fence trying to decide what if anything to do. I’m a bit reluctant to even mention this because I realize that 70ish degree temps aren’t an accurate indicator of how these mod’s will perform in warmer (hot) weather but the highest engine oil temp on this 139.6, 3 hour non-stop loop ride was 230 degrees @ an IOAT of just under 80 degrees with the fairing lovers closed and the Big Sky Oil Cooler Fan and LeNale Cylinder Fan OFF. Therefore I’m cautiously optimistic that these mod’s may…just may give me the heat reduction I’m seeking! One very positive indicator that these head pipes do not retain heat like the stock one’s is that upon parking the bike; that loud heat contraction ticking sound from the pipes is now gone; there is a little but nowhere as loud or as long as with the stock head pipes.
Our 100 degree heat season should be arriving in the desert southwest in about another month; so I will be in a better position to evaluate on the heat reduction performance of these mods at that time!
Footnote:
As pleased as I am with my two Fuel Moto mods (so far) I have to say that I’m a little disappointed in Fuel Moto! You would think that after spending close to a thousand dollars with them; they could see it in their heart to afford to through in 2-75 cent bung plugs or at minimum, at least tell the customer that the plugs are not included with the head pipes. Living in a small rural community, it was impossible to find any 12mm X 1.25 pitch thread plugs; I had to travel 35 miles to another town just to locate some appropriate size bolts that I could put in the unused bungs…unnecessary aggravation! Just my take on a company that prides itself on customer service; hopefully my commentary will help them learn from this incident and they will take measures to prevent future customers from being unnecessarily inconvenienced!
In all fairness to Fuel Moto and in an effort to end this post on a positive note; Jamie was most helpful in promptly downloading a revised MAP for my PC-V for which I’m very appreciative!
#2
Jimer; Thank you for the update on your mods. I can't wait to hear more on your tests. Also I would be curries of the changes in your gas mileage., hopefully for the better. Thank's for alerting us on the lack of the plugs for the Jackpot headers. Hopefully I'll be able to get a couple (or buy) from Jamie when I order my headers. Here where I live I can't just jump into a car and drive 35 miles to pickup a set of plugs. I'd have to fly 900 miles to see a different store or go the internet.
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I never considered my 2009 TG to be a dog; I always felt that for what it is and it’s size and weight, that the performance was adequately respectable. IMO, these two mods have transformed my “adequately respectable” trike into a powerful 3-wheel Cheetah! The new head pipes even make it sound more powerful and are considerably louder with a nice deep rumble sound.
#4
Jimer; Thank you for the update on your mods. I can't wait to hear more on your tests. Also I would be curries of the changes in your gas mileage., hopefully for the better. Thank's for alerting us on the lack of the plugs for the Jackpot headers. Hopefully I'll be able to get a couple (or buy) from Jamie when I order my headers. Here where I live I can't just jump into a car and drive 35 miles to pickup a set of plugs. I'd have to fly 900 miles to see a different store or go the internet.
Thank You
Thank You
I complain about having to travel 35 miles to the next town and you have to fly 900 miles to the next town; thanks for putting things in perspective for me….I guess all things are relative!
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#6
Great report and I also feel you have the heat problem under control, don't know of anything else you can do if this don't get you some respectable numbers. May get a little more drop from some colder plugs if you have not already tried that. Of course you know you get the same fire from the colder plus they just disapate a little more heat from the head area!
I also like one stop shopping! Did you get the cams from Fuel Moto and did you get the Torrington inner bearings with the order! I will probably get the adjustable pushrods to keep from tearing anymore down than I have to. Did you use the S&S adjustable pushrod kit, Fuel Moto parts or did you go back with your OEM pushrods? I assume you got the PC-5 from Fuel Motto with the MAPS pre loaded?
This is the combination I was looking at after the warranty ran out but have decided I'm not going to wait! Just to be sure, that is a drop in cam set with the ability to use stock valve springs and no head work?
Good luck with the build, it sounds promising!
#7
Footnote:
As pleased as I am with my two Fuel Moto mods (so far) I have to say that I’m a little disappointed in Fuel Moto! You would think that after spending close to a thousand dollars with them; they could see it in their heart to afford to through in 2-75 cent bung plugs or at minimum, at least tell the customer that the plugs are not included with the head pipes.
In all fairness to Fuel Moto and in an effort to end this post on a positive note; Jamie was most helpful in promptly downloading a revised MAP for my PC-V for which I’m very appreciative!
As pleased as I am with my two Fuel Moto mods (so far) I have to say that I’m a little disappointed in Fuel Moto! You would think that after spending close to a thousand dollars with them; they could see it in their heart to afford to through in 2-75 cent bung plugs or at minimum, at least tell the customer that the plugs are not included with the head pipes.
In all fairness to Fuel Moto and in an effort to end this post on a positive note; Jamie was most helpful in promptly downloading a revised MAP for my PC-V for which I’m very appreciative!
Last edited by Boom; 03-03-2010 at 08:29 AM.
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#8
I'm a newby when it comes to O2 sensors, bungs, etc. I have the Fuelmoto headpipes awaiting installation on my '10 TG at a later date. I thought the existing connections would transfer from my old headpipes pipes to the new; meaning sensors, plugs, whatever. Can someone fill me in here? I hate to do a tear-down and leave my trike jacked-up while I run out and find missing parts. Please advise! Thanks.
Last edited by grandpawmoses; 03-03-2010 at 08:53 AM.
#9
good decision to wake that engine up. as said many times before, the engine is severely choked up out of the factory which results in excess heat and crappy performance. nothing like a pipes, cams and A/C to open it up a bit and let her breathe.
i hope this gives you the temps you are looking for.
grimm
i hope this gives you the temps you are looking for.
grimm
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