bought these on here and they were too loud for my non cat 09. these are stainless steel and in good shape. Designed for a police bike from what I have read. Love the look but not my taste in sound. $85 shipped con us but not reservations. Don't ask me about that...lol. Its like the cost of shipping to the moon... lol
There were designed for leos and sound reduction without robbing power.. Maybe your ears r off if they r too loud lol
you are absolutely correct it is my ears at 63 years old they are shot and I have to run with soft sounding pipes these days or after a long run I get ringing in the ears for another day LOL