Man this 96 puts out some HEAT!
#31
04-08-2007, 01:25 PM
Outstanding HDF Member
RE: Man this 96 puts out some HEAT!
ORIGINAL: mistermooster
I do all of my own maint and when I did the 1000 mile scheduled service the spark plugs were just scarey. It looked like the engine was running terribly lean (not a good thing huh) Talking to the mechanic at the shop he said Harley had to lean the bike down to a 17to1 fuel/air ratio to pass emissions. Normally I would want this at about 14to1.
Now, I'm no mechanic. Not even close. I was just going by what I've read elsewhere and passing that along as it pertained to the subject. If my numbers are off, ok. The point is, the '07's run lean out of the crate, and the engines will suffer if not corrected. And to say it's ok because Harley "sold it that way", as the post infers, is justpoor logic.
I do all of my own maint and when I did the 1000 mile scheduled service the spark plugs were just scarey. It looked like the engine was running terribly lean (not a good thing huh) Talking to the mechanic at the shop he said Harley had to lean the bike down to a 17to1 fuel/air ratio to pass emissions. Normally I would want this at about 14to1.
Now, I'm no mechanic. Not even close. I was just going by what I've read elsewhere and passing that along as it pertained to the subject. If my numbers are off, ok. The point is, the '07's run lean out of the crate, and the engines will suffer if not corrected. And to say it's ok because Harley "sold it that way", as the post infers, is justpoor logic.
You cannot us the coloring of the plugs as a pertinant gauge of AF correction anymore....
With substandard fuels, higher voltages for ignitions, lower resistance plugs, the old addage of dry white plugs indicatean overly lean condition is no more....
You MUST use, at a minimum, an o2 "Sniffer".... Best to use a 4/5 gas analyzer.....
I have seen first hand how these "Plug Readers" get people in trouble....
Modern automotive electronics is by and far the hardest thing to grasp and accept, as the old school mentality is not easily overcome or forgotten...
#32
04-08-2007, 01:27 PM
Outstanding HDF Member
#33
04-08-2007, 01:44 PM
RE: Man this 96 puts out some HEAT!
ORIGINAL: PapaTravis
With the plastic sheild from kury, has anyone had issues with them breaking? I am a big guy and am affraid I will crack them and be out the money and time to install.
With the plastic sheild from kury, has anyone had issues with them breaking? I am a big guy and am affraid I will crack them and be out the money and time to install.
These things work okay, but I think an oil cooler and EFI mod are more important to control the heat--the idea being to control it first, then deflect what's left. I installed a PCIII and have been tweaking it for months with success, and also installed the HD cooler with thermostat. Oil temps stay at 180° as long as I'm moving, and 210° is the highest I've seen so far in traffic, measured in the pan. The bike does not emanate excessive heat, and I don't sense much difference from my '96 RK (Evo), which ran very cool.
#34
04-08-2007, 02:22 PM
RE: Man this 96 puts out some HEAT!
1st of all, it was only 80 here yesterday, so was not the same as a hot august day. had my '07 UC out last august, and it was a really hot between the thighs (mine, not the wife's!!, so don't go there). this winter added V&H ovals, oil coolerand an AN BS. Installed a SERT and had it dyno't and there is a noticable drop in heat.the dipstick guage read 205 after a hard 2 hour run, twoup.I knowthe bike is running considerably cooler, and the extreme lean condition of the stock bike no longer exists due to the re-tuning.
Am pleased with it, anddon't anticipate that i'll have to add saddle shields, but willknow more this summer.
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Am pleased with it, anddon't anticipate that i'll have to add saddle shields, but willknow more this summer.
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#35
04-08-2007, 04:32 PM
Road Warrior
RE: Man this 96 puts out some HEAT!
ORIGINAL: Shovelhead Bob
You cannot us the coloring of the plugs as a pertinant gauge of AF correction anymore....
With substandard fuels, higher voltages for ignitions, lower resistance plugs, the old addage of dry white plugs indicatean overly lean condition is no more....
You MUST use, at a minimum, an o2 "Sniffer".... Best to use a 4/5 gas analyzer.....
I have seen first hand how these "Plug Readers" get people in trouble....
Modern automotive electronics is by and far the hardest thing to grasp and accept, as the old school mentality is not easily overcome or forgotten...
ORIGINAL: mistermooster
I do all of my own maint and when I did the 1000 mile scheduled service the spark plugs were just scarey. It looked like the engine was running terribly lean (not a good thing huh) Talking to the mechanic at the shop he said Harley had to lean the bike down to a 17to1 fuel/air ratio to pass emissions. Normally I would want this at about 14to1.
Now, I'm no mechanic. Not even close. I was just going by what I've read elsewhere and passing that along as it pertained to the subject. If my numbers are off, ok. The point is, the '07's run lean out of the crate, and the engines will suffer if not corrected. And to say it's ok because Harley "sold it that way", as the post infers, is justpoor logic.
I do all of my own maint and when I did the 1000 mile scheduled service the spark plugs were just scarey. It looked like the engine was running terribly lean (not a good thing huh) Talking to the mechanic at the shop he said Harley had to lean the bike down to a 17to1 fuel/air ratio to pass emissions. Normally I would want this at about 14to1.
Now, I'm no mechanic. Not even close. I was just going by what I've read elsewhere and passing that along as it pertained to the subject. If my numbers are off, ok. The point is, the '07's run lean out of the crate, and the engines will suffer if not corrected. And to say it's ok because Harley "sold it that way", as the post infers, is justpoor logic.
You cannot us the coloring of the plugs as a pertinant gauge of AF correction anymore....
With substandard fuels, higher voltages for ignitions, lower resistance plugs, the old addage of dry white plugs indicatean overly lean condition is no more....
You MUST use, at a minimum, an o2 "Sniffer".... Best to use a 4/5 gas analyzer.....
I have seen first hand how these "Plug Readers" get people in trouble....
Modern automotive electronics is by and far the hardest thing to grasp and accept, as the old school mentality is not easily overcome or forgotten...
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