Adding Liquid Cool to 2013 and older
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Wow man you make this sound so complicated. I'm pretty sure all that would be needed is a thermostatically controlled switch to turn everything on. Kind of the same way guys used to like to do when building hotrods and wanted to get away from power robbing mechanical fans to cool the radiator.
#36
There's a saying that a typical engine wastes three quarters of its energy as heat. How much is avoided using ceramic/plasma coatings? You can reduce the heat coming off the exhaust headers a lot by doing so. Some companies claim exhaust surface temperatures reduce by up to 33%. Would be a lot cheaper to do so.
I am surprised it's not more widely offered for H-D headers because, surely, that's where most of the heat is coming from?
Thinking about it, an add on kit shouldn't cost much more than the cost of a high performance cast or CNC after market head and radiator, and if it was combined with the same performance benefits it would not be a dumb idea. I've paid no attention to this, did H-D patent the idea in a lock tight manner?
Water cooling barrels would be a lot easier but to ask why no one has done them is to propose something that looks like these ...
I am surprised it's not more widely offered for H-D headers because, surely, that's where most of the heat is coming from?
Thinking about it, an add on kit shouldn't cost much more than the cost of a high performance cast or CNC after market head and radiator, and if it was combined with the same performance benefits it would not be a dumb idea. I've paid no attention to this, did H-D patent the idea in a lock tight manner?
Water cooling barrels would be a lot easier but to ask why no one has done them is to propose something that looks like these ...
#37
I had a 94 K1100 BM LTD. Liquid cooled and the engine had a rep for a very very long life, it was nick named the brick. Liquid cooling allowed high performance and long life as did high tech materials. Heat however - wow in stop and go traffic I thought my shins would blister when the rad fans came on.
I think I would wait a year or two when these bikes come on the used market. What I don't get is why the touring models don't have a Vrod engine option.
With emissions being steadily tightened all the air cooled engines are likely to become a part of history.
I think I would wait a year or two when these bikes come on the used market. What I don't get is why the touring models don't have a Vrod engine option.
With emissions being steadily tightened all the air cooled engines are likely to become a part of history.
#38
I had a 94 K1100 BM LTD. Liquid cooled and the engine had a rep for a very very long life, it was nick named the brick. Liquid cooling allowed high performance and long life as did high tech materials. Heat however - wow in stop and go traffic I thought my shins would blister when the rad fans came on.
I think I would wait a year or two when these bikes come on the used market. What I don't get is why the touring models don't have a Vrod engine option.
With emissions being steadily tightened all the air cooled engines are likely to become a part of history.
I think I would wait a year or two when these bikes come on the used market. What I don't get is why the touring models don't have a Vrod engine option.
With emissions being steadily tightened all the air cooled engines are likely to become a part of history.
#39
There is at least one company that makes a bagger-ized V-Rod kit in the shape of a Road Glide. It's a sort of heresy amongst the traditionalists but I think it looks OK and if you are a smaller (average-sized) person, say 5'10" and under and in shape it would work well ... but be "too metric" for the above. It could even be a challenger for some of the Japanese and European touring bikes.
It strikes me part of the reason H-D stick with the big engines and bike is not just due to conservative tastes, because their target demographics got physically bigger too and they need a big bike to fit on.
New models and ideas always take a couple of generations to shakedown and be revised. Be happy with what you got, focus your mind elsewhere ... and wait a few years.
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