I just bought the SAMSON Hell Raiser Radius pipes for my SG. They have a slightly less aggressive arch to them but are radius none the less. I bought the Sinister Black ceramic version and have the heat shields off for gloss black powder right now. I got so sick of seeing Rinehart TD's on damn near every bike out there. Like others have said, it's all about individualism, sound, looks and personal taste. Not everything to me is about performance so if I lose a little Hp somewhere I think I'll survive.