Cruise in the rain with the newer baggers.
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Cruise in the rain with the newer baggers.
Thinking (dangerous, at best) about the way the cruise control works on the newer baggers.
Used to be gospel that you don't use cruise on rainy roads because if you hit a slick spot, and the wheels started spinning, it would run away with you. Fair enough.
The newer bikes (mine's a 2012) seem to be so sensitive to RPM increases that I wonder if this is still the case.
You can prove this to yourself by rolling along in 5th gear with the cruise on. Using the throttle, increase your speed so you have to shift into 6th. As soon as you pull the clutch, the cruise drops out. I looked at the fiche and didn't see a switch in the clutch lever so I'm pretty sure that the RPM increase is what causes the cruise to drop out. Would that make it safe enough to ride on wet roads?
David
Used to be gospel that you don't use cruise on rainy roads because if you hit a slick spot, and the wheels started spinning, it would run away with you. Fair enough.
The newer bikes (mine's a 2012) seem to be so sensitive to RPM increases that I wonder if this is still the case.
You can prove this to yourself by rolling along in 5th gear with the cruise on. Using the throttle, increase your speed so you have to shift into 6th. As soon as you pull the clutch, the cruise drops out. I looked at the fiche and didn't see a switch in the clutch lever so I'm pretty sure that the RPM increase is what causes the cruise to drop out. Would that make it safe enough to ride on wet roads?
David
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Being new to these bikes (I come from the Sporty world) I believe the cruise is electronic with the controller taking input from brakes and throttle position. I'm still getting used to the cruise, but I would seriously doubt I would want to use cruise in the rain on a bike. Things are treacherous enough without adding one more thing to the mix. I never use my cruise in snow and ice (on my van) due to potential wheel spin. Don't know why you'd want to risk it on two wheels.
But then this is my two cents worth!!!
But then this is my two cents worth!!!
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my 09 the cruise disconnects if:
clutch pulled in
brakes applied
throttle rolled forward
switched off
I can leave the cruise 'set' and accelerate past a truck (for instance), and when I release the throttle, the bike will resume at the set speed on the cruise.
I have not experimented on slick surfaces in which the rear tire might loose traction giving a 'sudden' increase
mike
clutch pulled in
brakes applied
throttle rolled forward
switched off
I can leave the cruise 'set' and accelerate past a truck (for instance), and when I release the throttle, the bike will resume at the set speed on the cruise.
I have not experimented on slick surfaces in which the rear tire might loose traction giving a 'sudden' increase
mike
Last edited by mkguitar; 05-06-2014 at 01:37 PM.
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Right out of the 09 Electrical Manual.
The ECM monitors both the engine RPM and the VSS
output speed signal. The ECM signals the throttle control
actuator to open or close the throttle to keep the speedometer
output speed signal constant. The engine RPM is
monitored to detect engine overspeed, a condition which
automatically causes cruise disengagement.
5. The ECM automatically disengages cruise mode whenever
Still don't advize Cruise Control when riding in the rain.
the ECM receives one of the following inputs:
a. front or rear brake is applied.
b. throttle is "rolled back" or closed, thereby actuating
throttle roll-off (disengage) command.
c. motorcycle clutch is disengaged (ECM senses too
great an increase in RPM).
d. cruise on/off switch placed in the off position.
e. handlebar-mounted engine stop switch placed in the
off position.
f. handlebar-mounted cruise SET/RESUME switch is
pushed to SET and held in that position until vehicle
speed drops below 30 MPH (48 km/h) or pushed to
RES until vehicle speed exceeds 85 MPH (137 km/h).
The ECM monitors both the engine RPM and the VSS
output speed signal. The ECM signals the throttle control
actuator to open or close the throttle to keep the speedometer
output speed signal constant. The engine RPM is
monitored to detect engine overspeed, a condition which
automatically causes cruise disengagement.
5. The ECM automatically disengages cruise mode whenever
Still don't advize Cruise Control when riding in the rain.
the ECM receives one of the following inputs:
a. front or rear brake is applied.
b. throttle is "rolled back" or closed, thereby actuating
throttle roll-off (disengage) command.
c. motorcycle clutch is disengaged (ECM senses too
great an increase in RPM).
d. cruise on/off switch placed in the off position.
e. handlebar-mounted engine stop switch placed in the
off position.
f. handlebar-mounted cruise SET/RESUME switch is
pushed to SET and held in that position until vehicle
speed drops below 30 MPH (48 km/h) or pushed to
RES until vehicle speed exceeds 85 MPH (137 km/h).