Daymakers-flashing cars-do I compromise?
#1
Daymakers-flashing cars-do I compromise?
**edited to clarify that I wasn't on high beam when flashed by cars**
'13 SG with reflective day makers
Textbook alignment had low beam a little too low (for my liking) Took them up to my liking- (on low beam) ………every car flashed me.
Had my wife go out in the car and did some test passes and she said…."Baby, that is extremely painful. I couldn't see." So, I aimed them down until she said it was bearable. The low beam are now okay but not exactly as high as I would like them….and the high beam are angled down toward the ground and not straight out and parallel with the ground.
I'm beginning to think the high beam isn't for lighting up the night sky or well out in front of you. I would love to leave my low beam at the height (higher) I like them, which also puts my high beam straight out and parallel with the ground----but this causes the low beam to be too high.
On a positive note, the freaking low beam is nice--it lights up everything from left to right---illuminates everything--very nice. It, to me, is very similar to the stock high beam…..so, maybe I'll ignore the high beam.
Any comments from other day maker owners? A buddy of mine said…screw the cars…take them up to your liking and they'll get over it. I don't ride much at night at all and won't be on too many back/2 lane roads like where I tested them
'13 SG with reflective day makers
Textbook alignment had low beam a little too low (for my liking) Took them up to my liking- (on low beam) ………every car flashed me.
Had my wife go out in the car and did some test passes and she said…."Baby, that is extremely painful. I couldn't see." So, I aimed them down until she said it was bearable. The low beam are now okay but not exactly as high as I would like them….and the high beam are angled down toward the ground and not straight out and parallel with the ground.
I'm beginning to think the high beam isn't for lighting up the night sky or well out in front of you. I would love to leave my low beam at the height (higher) I like them, which also puts my high beam straight out and parallel with the ground----but this causes the low beam to be too high.
On a positive note, the freaking low beam is nice--it lights up everything from left to right---illuminates everything--very nice. It, to me, is very similar to the stock high beam…..so, maybe I'll ignore the high beam.
Any comments from other day maker owners? A buddy of mine said…screw the cars…take them up to your liking and they'll get over it. I don't ride much at night at all and won't be on too many back/2 lane roads like where I tested them
Last edited by sfcmo357; 04-21-2014 at 12:58 PM.
#2
Whether you are on 'low" or "high", if traffic is blinded by your lights at night, then you maybe are at fault.
you may have noticed that bright lights give target fixation.
a number of studies have shown that police cars with bright flashing lights are being hit when stopped on shoulder in numbers greater than before, this seems to coincide with the high power light kits now in use.
so there is that.
there is also the chance that on-coming Dude is gonna light up his off road kit for you...now you are blinded. basically out gunned.
I know that if I get some ***** lighting up my rear window, I don't try to make his life easier....maybe I know your Buddy...I just adjust my mirrors and drive like he isn't there.
mike
you may have noticed that bright lights give target fixation.
a number of studies have shown that police cars with bright flashing lights are being hit when stopped on shoulder in numbers greater than before, this seems to coincide with the high power light kits now in use.
so there is that.
there is also the chance that on-coming Dude is gonna light up his off road kit for you...now you are blinded. basically out gunned.
I know that if I get some ***** lighting up my rear window, I don't try to make his life easier....maybe I know your Buddy...I just adjust my mirrors and drive like he isn't there.
mike
Last edited by mkguitar; 04-21-2014 at 01:17 PM.
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#4
Wouldn't you normally off the high beam for oncoming traffic anyway? If that's the case then it should never bother anyone coming the other way. In a lot of places failure to dim is a ticketable offense anyway. Even if it's not it strikes me as a basic courtesy.
And the extra bright emergency vehicle lighting has bugged me for a while. Beyond the fixation that was mentioned I find them blindingly distracting creating a hazard they are intended to prevent.
And the extra bright emergency vehicle lighting has bugged me for a while. Beyond the fixation that was mentioned I find them blindingly distracting creating a hazard they are intended to prevent.
#5
If you "don't ride much at all at night" what is the point of making everyone else miserable.
Very real danger than when you dazzle upcoming traffic, they will run into you.
Take one look into your lights, and you will never want to look directly into them again. Painfull is an accurate description.
Very real danger than when you dazzle upcoming traffic, they will run into you.
Take one look into your lights, and you will never want to look directly into them again. Painfull is an accurate description.
#6
Set those high beams to where YOU want them.
If you're approaching head on traffic at night just dim them.
YOUR safety comes first. If you can't see the road far enough in front of you when riding, that's a hazard.
I have the twin Daymakers on my Road Glide and have them adjusted perfectly for ME. If I get flashed by on coming traffic, I just flip to low beams.
If you're approaching head on traffic at night just dim them.
YOUR safety comes first. If you can't see the road far enough in front of you when riding, that's a hazard.
I have the twin Daymakers on my Road Glide and have them adjusted perfectly for ME. If I get flashed by on coming traffic, I just flip to low beams.
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#8
I have had the HD LED's for 2 years now and here are my observations. I ride at night daily on my way to work,I have never had any use for the high beam. The low beam is aimed exactly as the instructions state. When you are driving at night you can actually see the top horizontal line of the light beam and it doesn't hit oncoming drivers in the eyes but I have been "flashed" a few times. These lights are similar to what you see on some high end luxury cars and yes they are very white and very bright. I have even flashed some of these cars myself only to get their real high beams flashed back at me. One thing is certain,you will be noticed! That's a good thing when on a bike and an even better thing in the daylight hours. Haven't had anyone pull out in front of me since adding the lights. I really think most people flash because they "assume" you're running the high beams. The additional passing lamp LED's make them think that even more.
#9
Yeah, I have the reflective day makers. And my lights are on low beam when getting the flashes from cars. Low beam is what my wife and daughter said were painfully bright. I don't want to be a danger to others, but I paid to be safe also. I'm just sentimental to oncoming traffic, I guess, because I have a new driver in my home and would hate for her inexperience + nighttime day makers to cause her issues.
mccsteve, I have one of those luxury cars with bi-xenon and get flashed all the time and then I hit my high beams it probably scares the **** out of them. Also, the new reflective Daymakers don't have that horizontal line. I may say differently as I ride more at night---but I didn't notice
mccsteve, I have one of those luxury cars with bi-xenon and get flashed all the time and then I hit my high beams it probably scares the **** out of them. Also, the new reflective Daymakers don't have that horizontal line. I may say differently as I ride more at night---but I didn't notice
Last edited by sfcmo357; 04-21-2014 at 08:06 AM.
#10
If you are being flashed and you have your lows on, you have them pointed to high. The light should not be painful when on lows. I think you will be safer to have it aimed down a bit. I see big 4X4s that will turn on all their off-road lights to "get back" at you and trust me, that will blind you and you may end up in a ditch.
Also, I have heard about cars playing chicken with other vehicles because they wouldn't turn off their bright lights and wanted to get their attention.
Also, I have heard about cars playing chicken with other vehicles because they wouldn't turn off their bright lights and wanted to get their attention.