2010 was the year that the catalytic converter was installed on all bikes. The bike can really heat up. There is the ETIMS, but when that kicks in the temp is really high. First, I changed to synthetic oil, then stage 1 upgrade, next was the oil cooler, and finally the Wards cooling fans.

 

Just added the fans and they are a game changer lol

The heat management issue gone. Hot starts gone(still use cr)

What a pain in the *** when your bike starts heat management.. hopping around on one cylinder like its ready to cut out.

Ive done everything I can think of except the lower temp thermal valve for the oil cooler OR use a different cam with less compression but that ant happenin!

 

Don't worry man get on the bike and ride it. Harley is no new at making motorcycles that last a very long time.

 

Others left them stock and never had a problem. Increasing the cooling is a choice not a requirement.

 

The first and best money spent on the bike is first to get a good dyno tune and get away from that EPA calibration that is in the ECM, and if your just stage one, you won't need anything else for cooling.

a good dyno tune only comes from a good dyno guy who can do timing and fueling with the tuner you have, if he has no experience with your tuner go somewhere else. not someone who throws a canned map in there and says your good to go.

 

It would do it if you want one but its not an absolute necessity even if you lived in my climate. In fact, I'm not going to put one on my wifes new Super Glide; she put it to me this way, if these bikes absolutely needed one they would come stock with one. i'm inclined to agree. If you sit in bumper to bumper traffic regularly and punish it by letting it sit and idle all the time, you may have a case. So, don't buy into someone else's fear and make it your own.....what fun is that

 

I used to see ET's of 315+ in summer, stuck in beach traffic.monitored on my PowerVision which reads the sensor in the front cylinder head. Now with wardspartswerks FCS, ET never goes over 250. Very happy with that. No oil cooler, Digital dipstick reads about 270 after a long ride of at least an hour or more.

 

This is all good info. some of you have stated that you noticed your oil temps around 220 or so, and I was going to ask how do you know that but the last post explains it. I'm guessing there is a digital dipstick that I can get that shows the oil temps. My dash gauge only shows oil pressure and air temps. Where is the air temp reading coming from?

Are there other ways of getting these readings while riding (ET and oil temp)?

I'm running a PMI intake, PCV tuner , and true dual Rinehart 4 inch pipes.
I'm thinking that i'm going to keep an eye on it to see how it does and then make a decision.

Thanks for all of the input

Rick

 

I initially ran the digital dip stick. This winter I changed my useless air temp gauge for the Harley in fairing oil temp gauge.

 

A few riders replace the useless air temp for the optional Harley oil temp gauge. Also some tuners like the power vision allow you to monitor head temps, my Dakota digital gauges allow me to monitor my head temps and have an oil temp gauge.

I didn't install an oil cooler or fans until I started modding the engine, now I use both!