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Old 01-18-2014 | 05:47 PM
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Could it be a lifter that bled down and hasn't pumped up? How long did you run the bike?

I don't know too much about lifters but I've read a little.
 
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Old 01-18-2014 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tjcaron

Good point.

Pulled the front rocker cover, oil is definitely getting up in there.

Looks like as long as I marked them correctly the pushrods are correct. Both dark ones are on the exhaust and both light ones are on the intake.
If you only pulled the front cover, how do you know both cylinders are OK?

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Old 01-18-2014 | 06:19 PM
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Really not much can go wrong. Lifters were never out I'm assuming. Lifter blocks off so anti rotation pin could have not been reinstalled. That would be bad. Rockers not tightened down. Pushrods installed incorrectly.

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Old 01-18-2014 | 06:32 PM
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Ok. Forgive me and don't flame me...

When you say verify that they have a load on them but are not holding a valve open what do you mean?

If I get the front cylinder at TDC and on compression, the front pushrods spin freely and the rear pushrods do not turn.
 
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Old 01-18-2014 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tjcaron
Ok. Forgive me and don't flame me...

When you say verify that they have a load on them but are not holding a valve open what do you mean?

If I get the front cylinder at TDC and on compression, the front pushrods spin freely and the rear pushrods do not turn.
No flame, I am here to help.

At TDC compression a lifter should have .100" preload. With out the motor running and creating oil presure you should be able to spin the push rod with some resistance. But there should be no play. And they both should be the same.

To confirm compression stroke, rotate the engine a little in each direction, niether rocker should move.
 
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Old 01-18-2014 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by smithbrl
Could it be a lifter that bled down and hasn't pumped up? How long did you run the bike?

I don't know too much about lifters but I've read a little.
Lifters never came out. Only ran it for about a minute and killed it once I heard the noise. Started it back up for the video.

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If you only pulled the front cover, how do you know both cylinders are OK?

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I hadn't pulled the second cover because it's a PITA. Had just pulled off the clips on the pushrod tubes to verify they were in the correct position. Just pulled the cover and everything appears correct.
 
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Old 01-18-2014 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by senna
No flame, I am here to help.

At TDC compression a lifter should have .100" preload. With out the motor running and creating oil presure you should be able to spin the push rod with some resistance. But there should be no play. And they both should be the same.

To confirm compression stroke, rotate the engine a little in each direction, niether rocker should move.
Ok, so I should be able to spin all 4 pushrods or just the the one cylinder because I can spin all 4 but there is no play.
 
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Old 01-18-2014 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tjcaron
Ok, so I should be able to spin all 4 pushrods or just the the one cylinder?
Just the cyl on TDC. But the push rods should not spin freely, they should have some resistance.
 
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Old 01-18-2014 | 06:55 PM
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All 4 pushrods are spinning. The rear cylinder definitely has more resistance than the front. What am I doing wrong here?

1) Pulled rocker covers, clips on pushrod tubes and spark plugs
2) Put a piece of paper towel in the front cylinder spark plug hole and rotated rear wheel until it popped out. Used a pencil in the hole to verify it was at the top.
3) Rotated the wheel back and forth to verify and rockers didn't move.
 
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Old 01-18-2014 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tjcaron
All 4 pushrods are spinning. The rear cylinder definitely has more resistance than the front. What am I doing wrong here?

1) Pulled rocker covers, clips on pushrod tubes and spark plugs
2) Put a piece of paper towel in the front cylinder spark plug hole and rotated rear wheel until it popped out. Used a pencil in the hole to verify it was at the top.
3) Rotated the wheel back and forth to verify and rockers didn't move.
What are you working on. Year, model, miles?
 


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