Not happy with HD after 30 years
#71
10-31-2013, 11:18 PM
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#72
10-31-2013, 11:38 PM
Road Master
#73
11-01-2013, 12:04 AM
Harley has built water cooled motors for years, hello remember the Vrod.IMO where they screwed up was trying to turn an air cooled motor into a water cooled motor but have it still look air cooled.Some of the metrics build water cooled V twins that have the appearance of air cooled but they're designed from the ground up to do that.
Last edited by CRF; 11-01-2013 at 12:14 AM.
#74
11-01-2013, 12:12 AM
Ummm.... I dunno.... Through a well thought out and properly engineered design? Or maybe an effective quality control program? Or how about through the implimentation of a thorough testing regime?..... Nah - you're right... Way easier just to foist them on the consumer and wing it.
#75
11-01-2013, 06:43 AM
#76
11-01-2013, 07:08 AM
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There is a lot to be said about having the security of a tried and tested design, and having a bike that doesn't require the dealership to keep it running. That new bike smell is great, but it also comes with payments and new bike aggravation. Sure, the 14's have some cool new stuff. Sadly you can't enjoy it while it sits at the shop.
:icon_beerch ug:Lots of wisdom here, guys.
Ummm.... I dunno.... Through a well thought out and properly engineered design? Or maybe an effective quality control program? Or how about through the implimentation of a thorough testing regime?... Nah - you're right... Way easier just to foist them on the consumer and wing it.
Personally, if I were in a herd of sheep headed for the cliff, I'd want to be in the back of the herd.
#77
11-01-2013, 07:21 AM
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I was on a team at Delphi working on the V-Rod engine management system before its debut. We all thought the water cooled motor would be introduced in the Touring lineup a year or 2 later. Unfortunately the water cooled V-Rod was not received well by the majority of air cooled harley customers. 120 hp out of the box....
#78
11-01-2013, 07:23 AM
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Sorry its been such a bad experience for you. I had issue's with my 2010 before my current bike, long story short, I called harley and told them my next bike will be a victory due to their shody workmanship. Once harley itself (not the dealer) got involved everything got fixed. So for sure get them involved.
Bad thing is now you have the dealer who has to deal with an insurance issue over dropping your bike, myself I might feel like f-it keep the bike I want my money back. Of course they are gonna want to fix it, I would have to see the damage to make up my mind, but for sure I would be fed up at the point you are now.
Bad thing is now you have the dealer who has to deal with an insurance issue over dropping your bike, myself I might feel like f-it keep the bike I want my money back. Of course they are gonna want to fix it, I would have to see the damage to make up my mind, but for sure I would be fed up at the point you are now.
#79
11-01-2013, 08:59 AM
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#80
11-01-2013, 09:08 AM
I was on a team at Delphi working on the V-Rod engine management system before its debut. We all thought the water cooled motor would be introduced in the Touring lineup a year or 2 later. Unfortunately the water cooled V-Rod was not received well by the majority of air cooled harley customers. 120 hp out of the box....