Originally Posted by roadkinglobo

I'm a foreigner (Canadian) so I don't bear loyalty to any particular tuning product or tuner but I will say this.......and you can all deny it if you want:

1. PPl in the Midwest, North, Eastern States seem to prefer Fuel Moto and what Jamie has tried to do for his customers!

2. PPl on the CVO sites, Arizona, Caly and Southwest think the sun shines out of Steve's *** at Fullsac.

3. PPl in the Gulf States and Florida swear by the magic that supposedly Doc does.....

I will tell you one thing.....I have never read or heard Jamie or his staff at FM berate or put down someone else's work or product. I, however cannot say the same for the other 2. Don't believe me.....check out the posts on CVO Harley sometime.

Deal with whomever you want, but as someone wiser than me stated " Don't be an asshat and come on this forum pissing and whining if you haven't had the decency to give your original vendor the opportunity to make things right." That's just wrong and chicken-**** to boot!

Lobo

Originally Posted by Emonster6x

I just had my 2012 Road Glide Custom Dyno tuned. I had it done by Dale at Cycle Performance Center; in Orlando, Florida. I had purchased a Power Commander V from Fuel Moto and installed it with a "Map" supplied by Fuel Moto. And I have a oil tempature gauge installed in this bike as well.

I had oil temps that exceeded 300 degrees! I couldn't believe it! I asked the "expert" service staff at HD Orlando East, and they said suuuure! 300 is normal! yeah right!

There was nothing I could do, so as a last resort I broke down and took that poor bike to get a dyno tune on my PC-V.

We pulled the 02 sensors and the front sensor was black and sooty. The rear sensor was pure white!

The "Map" was pure junk. That is all I will say. I know that you fuel moto loyalists will flame me but so what.

The bike now runs awesome and the oil temp does not exceed 230 degrees.

My point is that you cannot get a map from anyone, no matter what they promise you, your'e gonna have to get your bike tuned where you live so you know what is in your tuner. I am not saying that Fuel Moto is at fault, only that you have to do things yourself if you want it right. Lesson learned.

Originally Posted by Emonster6x

I just had my 2012 Road Glide Custom Dyno tuned. I had it done by Dale at Cycle Performance Center; in Orlando, Florida. I had purchased a Power Commander V from Fuel Moto and installed it with a "Map" supplied by Fuel Moto. And I have a oil tempature gauge installed in this bike as well.

I had oil temps that exceeded 300 degrees! I couldn't believe it! I asked the "expert" service staff at HD Orlando East, and they said suuuure! 300 is normal! yeah right!

There was nothing I could do, so as a last resort I broke down and took that poor bike to get a dyno tune on my PC-V.

We pulled the 02 sensors and the front sensor was black and sooty. The rear sensor was pure white!

The "Map" was pure junk. That is all I will say. I know that you fuel moto loyalists will flame me but so what.

The bike now runs awesome and the oil temp does not exceed 230 degrees.

My point is that you cannot get a map from anyone, no matter what they promise you, your'e gonna have to get your bike tuned where you live so you know what is in your tuner. I am not saying that Fuel Moto is at fault, only that you have to do things yourself if you want it right. Lesson learned.

Originally Posted by rooti

One size fits all will work sometimes and other times it won't.
Dynotuning with a competent tuner is the only way to get it 100% right.

All you people with canned maps can settle for pretty good, but you will never know awesome until you try it.

Originally Posted by Sharkman73

Exactly my opinion as well. There is no substitution for putting YOUR bike on the dyno & having it tuned properly by a competent tuner. There are just too many variables using a canned map IMO.