You get what you pay for.......
#31
10-05-2013 | 09:46 PM
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From: missouri
I have a CVO road king with the usual goodies and the SE Pro tuner. Went to 4 different tuners total and threw away a lot of cash before I found one that got it right.
I recently added a Road Glide Ultra as a second bike. did a Power Vision from FM. Told them I was doing an A/C and pipes and they sent me the map, it ran pretty darn good. Month later added a Cam, sent me another map and it did the trick and I'm really happy with how its running. I havent spent a dime on dyno time. When I'm 100 % sure I'm done building/playing I'll take it to the Tuner that I found that I know is worth the bucks.
Couple ways to skin a cat.... FM worked out for me.
I probably would have gave them a call if I thought the bike wasn't running right after I loaded the map I got from them.
I recently added a Road Glide Ultra as a second bike. did a Power Vision from FM. Told them I was doing an A/C and pipes and they sent me the map, it ran pretty darn good. Month later added a Cam, sent me another map and it did the trick and I'm really happy with how its running. I havent spent a dime on dyno time. When I'm 100 % sure I'm done building/playing I'll take it to the Tuner that I found that I know is worth the bucks.
Couple ways to skin a cat.... FM worked out for me.
I probably would have gave them a call if I thought the bike wasn't running right after I loaded the map I got from them.
#32
10-06-2013 | 04:14 AM
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From: So. Fla.
I bought the Stage 1 A/C and PC III from FM, and had a little under- power issue. I called and Buan advised me to set the throttle position. Did that and my bike is running well. I plan on dyno tuning it after the cams are done and that will be that. I think FM's customer service is great, and the canned map is good enough for now. but I also know a dyno will get the best performance out of the bike once my mods are finished.
#33
10-06-2013 | 07:28 AM
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From: Central Wisconsin
When are peeps going to get this,you buy a canned map it is not going to perform like a complete Dyno tune(but
I wish wound)so it runs 100% right.Kinda like the ford pinto price with the Caddy ride don't happen,Talk to any great builders they don't can map anything they build and tune it,sounds like Cheap to me,HD stands for hundreds of dollars for starters,Hope the helps you in the future,OH and don't be afraid to ask.
I wish wound)so it runs 100% right.Kinda like the ford pinto price with the Caddy ride don't happen,Talk to any great builders they don't can map anything they build and tune it,sounds like Cheap to me,HD stands for hundreds of dollars for starters,Hope the helps you in the future,OH and don't be afraid to ask.
#34
10-06-2013 | 08:24 AM
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#35
10-06-2013 | 08:29 AM
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and why would it cause a problem specifically?
to my knowledge narrow band sensors are what the ECM uses to "tune" itself within within it's limits. The PCV is nothing more than a piggy-back fuel management device and cannot IN ANY WAY be compared to a true tuning device or a competent dyno tuner.
OP - hats off to you sir for having the brains to get that bike tuned properly. She's happy now which means you will be happy too
to my knowledge narrow band sensors are what the ECM uses to "tune" itself within within it's limits. The PCV is nothing more than a piggy-back fuel management device and cannot IN ANY WAY be compared to a true tuning device or a competent dyno tuner.
OP - hats off to you sir for having the brains to get that bike tuned properly. She's happy now which means you will be happy too
#36
10-06-2013 | 08:46 AM
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Typically I would agree with you on all counts but that was not the theme of his thread and it was pretty obvious. If it were [the theme] it would have simply been, "Hey I got a canned map and it didn't work so I went to a local Dyno guy and now all better. Sometimes it pays to get dyno work done... The.End."
But instead it was "I got a canned map from FM, I'm not saying they suck, but hey the map REALLY sucked, so you can't trust them or any other online map source, and I know better, and should have known better, and I'm not calling FM out, but I am, but really I'm not, but it's ok because I don't care, and I'll probably get flamed for this, oh hell I just did, oh my"
Not real hard to understand why all of us that LOVE what FM has done for our community would be like... Dude... didn't you call Fuelmoto? and be a little pissy about it. I mean whenever I have a problem with a product I bought I always call a competitor to fix the problem and then head straight to the net to rag a trusted vendor. That you too? Didn't think so...
Furthermore he won't call Wisconsin to have the problem fixed because he lives in Florida. Really? He called Wisconsin to BUY the product...
So lets set that straight.
lp
But instead it was "I got a canned map from FM, I'm not saying they suck, but hey the map REALLY sucked, so you can't trust them or any other online map source, and I know better, and should have known better, and I'm not calling FM out, but I am, but really I'm not, but it's ok because I don't care, and I'll probably get flamed for this, oh hell I just did, oh my"
Not real hard to understand why all of us that LOVE what FM has done for our community would be like... Dude... didn't you call Fuelmoto? and be a little pissy about it. I mean whenever I have a problem with a product I bought I always call a competitor to fix the problem and then head straight to the net to rag a trusted vendor. That you too? Didn't think so...
Furthermore he won't call Wisconsin to have the problem fixed because he lives in Florida. Really? He called Wisconsin to BUY the product...
So lets set that straight.
lp
#37
10-06-2013 | 09:18 AM
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Guess I'll agree to disagree...other than saying the map was "pure junk" OP didn't bash FM...he simply stated the map was incorrect (AKA really sucked) so guess his "phrase" was inappropriate. I didn't take it as a ranting flame-fest @ FM and agree they're top-scale support...his one fail was NOT calling FM vs. proceeding to Dyno tuner & again = his check so no need to
lp
#38
10-06-2013 | 09:41 AM
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From: Vermont
Dyno Tuners are as varied as canned maps! Luck of the draw. There are good ones and bad ones. I've seen my share of dyno tuned bikes that folks spent a lot of money on, that ran great on the canned map and like total dog Sh-t after a dyno tune. Best advice is to know and have good references from the guy tuning your bike.
#39
10-06-2013 | 03:25 PM
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From: Central Wisconsin
Well I'm here to tell you I brought aPV from Jammie with the map for my build it ran pretty good but I still had it DYNO TUNED and now it runs real good if I wound have never got it Dyno tuned I wouldn't have know the Differance,but I don't think Jammie charged Extra for the map to get the bike up and runnin,By the way all of my scooters have been Dyno tuned for the best PERF. I can get and it does cost,I have 3 with motor work,make sure you like your Hobby 
#40
10-06-2013 | 04:23 PM
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