You did not take advantage of what you paid for. That is on you.

 

Never been a fan of canned maps or "auto tune". Both fall short of realizing full potential like a good dyno tune produces. Note that I said good dyno tune. There are a lot of shops that do not have competent folks doing their tuning and there are shops that do.

I do most of my own work and do have the software to support the tuners on both of my bikes but I opted to travel a bit of distance to get both of my bikes tuned. The engines were also broken in on the dyno and started life in a controlled environment. Best money spent ever. The bikes both run very well for what they are and produce good power and torque as well. The maps that were developed for my bike fit the areas I ride and my riding style.

 

Guess most readers missed OP's last sentence where he stated "I'm not saying FM is at fault" so this now turns South to a defend FM thread. All he's trying to say is "assess your tune" because there's a possibility of fault in set-up, mapping, operation, etc...give OP a break.

Now, if his PCV has "auto-tune" modules, then O2 sensors are a factor...not stated to we won't know if this is a factor until OP validates.

Also, if OP elected to seek other means for resolving heat issues BEFORE calling FM = his choice so no need to add fuel to your flaming fire. BLUF = don't be so quick to judge, unless you're the one with the checkbook.

 

He also said the map was pure junk.. Could of been wrong map by mistake?.

 

Typically I would agree with you on all counts but that was not the theme of his thread and it was pretty obvious. If it were [the theme] it would have simply been, "Hey I got a canned map and it didn't work so I went to a local Dyno guy and now all better. Sometimes it pays to get dyno work done... The.End."

But instead it was "I got a canned map from FM, I'm not saying they suck, but hey the map REALLY sucked, so you can't trust them or any other online map source, and I know better, and should have known better, and I'm not calling FM out, but I am, but really I'm not, but it's ok because I don't care, and I'll probably get flamed for this, oh hell I just did, oh my"

Not real hard to understand why all of us that LOVE what FM has done for our community would be like... Dude... didn't you call Fuelmoto? and be a little pissy about it. I mean whenever I have a problem with a product I bought I always call a competitor to fix the problem and then head straight to the net to rag a trusted vendor. That you too? Didn't think so...

Furthermore he won't call Wisconsin to have the problem fixed because he lives in Florida. Really? He called Wisconsin to BUY the product...

So lets set that straight.

lp

 

I installed a Cobra Power port head pipe, bought the Fuel Moto 3.5 Dyno Tuned Mufflers and one of the earlier Fuel Moto modified Screaming Eagle air cleaners. Fuel moto installed the map on my PCV for me. I couldn't be happier. No more lean stumble, nice power, good gas mileage no Decel pop, plugs are a just off white with a tiny tan tint to them and the bike starts easily and runs great in all temps and situations! In my case there is no need to dyno tune because I don't feel it can run any better! May not be the case for everyone, but my package with the exception of the Cobra head pipe is a common one for Fuel Moto so there's been a lot of experience and fine tuning with that map I'm sure. Point is, if the map makes you happy and the bike seems happy, great! If you need some extra tuning, use the base as just that, a base and get it dyno'd. Bashing a good company who does their very best to stay on top of the thousands of configurations out there is plain unfair and unwarranted. Many of the people who end up with issues probably find in the end that its something else like an intake leak causing their pop and other issues. Read about and/or witnessed that too many times. Oh and for the record.....I got more than I paid for!

 

While it's true that a quality, custom dyno tune will work better than a canned map, it's ignorant as $hit to go on a forum and whine about a product/company when you can't be bothered to give the manufacturer/distributor an opportunity to take care of the problem.

Fuelmoto bends over backwards to take care of their customers. If you'd given them the opportunity to help you, they would have.

 

I concluded the same thing with a map supplied when I bought my PCV from them as well. I asked for a map to help with pinging and the timing was so advanced it actually made it worse. You really have to do things yourself and some of us are not as easily impressed as others. The canned map is the same one they send everyone with any kind of stage 1 setup. The map they sent with the PCV was identical to an update I requested for a diff set of pipes...Identical.

 

All I actually know about Fuelmoto is my Indy got my PCV from them and the base map was really bad. After another map and some auto tuning I got it dynotuned. Way better!! The OP just skipped the middle part and got it done right. From everything I've heard Fuelmoto does great work and quality customer service on there kits and parts they sell. My guess is if they don't sell it they don't support it. Nothing wrong with that at all. Make s perfect business sense. Just be aware if ya don't have woods cams, their pistons, A/C, Pipes don't expect one of their canned maps to work properly. May be good enough for some/most.

 

I bought FM's stage one package deal at 1000 miles.The engine would ping sometimes so I requested another map,same thing happened.I rode it until I had a missfire. at about 21000 miles.

So I removed the PCv and K&N filter(installed the stock filter) and kept the FM headpipe on with the sensors connected and took the bike to the dealer.I removed this stuff because of the warranty.
The bike was fixed under the ESP warranty and since then I have rode about 1600 miles.
I swear the bike runs great with this set up,no pinging anymore.