Anyone run Jackpot 4.5 touring mufflers?
#21
The main functional difference, among the many choices in headers, is the configuration. Most touring headers are a 2-into-1, a 2-into-1-into-2 (our stock setup), or a 2-into-2 (true dual) configuration.
Within each configuration, a header can be further engineered to control and direct the exhaust flow from the header to the muffler(s), to enhance its performance.
There ARE performance differences among the various configurations, simply due to the nature of the design; but those differences are quite subtle, and would be very transparent to the average rider.
IMHO, most folks purchase aftermarket headers for two basic reasons: 1) to eliminate the catalytic converter, and 2) to change the look. To a lesser degree, the change is made for "sound".
In my case, I wanted to retain the original 2-1-2 configuration (MoCo spends millions of dollars in R&D, so I trust the stock design), but eliminate the blockage, thus the heat, caused by the catalytic converter.
Hope I answered your question.
#22
Not a dumb question at all, rsarno.
The main functional difference, among the many choices in headers, is the configuration. Most touring headers are a 2-into-1, a 2-into-1-into-2 (our stock setup), or a 2-into-2 (true dual) configuration.
Within each configuration, a header can be further engineered to control and direct the exhaust flow from the header to the muffler(s), to enhance its performance.
There ARE performance differences among the various configurations, simply due to the nature of the design; but those differences are quite subtle, and would be very transparent to the average rider.
IMHO, most folks purchase aftermarket headers for two basic reasons: 1) to eliminate the catalytic converter, and 2) to change the look. To a lesser degree, the change is made for "sound".
In my case, I wanted to retain the original 2-1-2 configuration (MoCo spends millions of dollars in R&D, so I trust the stock design), but eliminate the blockage, thus the heat, caused by the catalytic converter.
Hope I answered your question.
The main functional difference, among the many choices in headers, is the configuration. Most touring headers are a 2-into-1, a 2-into-1-into-2 (our stock setup), or a 2-into-2 (true dual) configuration.
Within each configuration, a header can be further engineered to control and direct the exhaust flow from the header to the muffler(s), to enhance its performance.
There ARE performance differences among the various configurations, simply due to the nature of the design; but those differences are quite subtle, and would be very transparent to the average rider.
IMHO, most folks purchase aftermarket headers for two basic reasons: 1) to eliminate the catalytic converter, and 2) to change the look. To a lesser degree, the change is made for "sound".
In my case, I wanted to retain the original 2-1-2 configuration (MoCo spends millions of dollars in R&D, so I trust the stock design), but eliminate the blockage, thus the heat, caused by the catalytic converter.
Hope I answered your question.
I really have no need for more performance, and actually love the current 2/2 configuration. I would only do the header in order to reduce heat, and improve sound.
You just saved me a ton of money! Thanks again ... looks like a stock decatted pipe is all i need.
BTW is there a trick to looking on CL? I cant seem to type in anything that will result in pipes lol
#24
Excellent! Thank you SO much for explaining that.
I really have no need for more performance, and actually love the current 2/2 configuration. I would only do the header in order to reduce heat, and improve sound.
You just saved me a ton of money! Thanks again ... looks like a stock decatted pipe is all i need.
BTW is there a trick to looking on CL? I cant seem to type in anything that will result in pipes lol
I really have no need for more performance, and actually love the current 2/2 configuration. I would only do the header in order to reduce heat, and improve sound.
You just saved me a ton of money! Thanks again ... looks like a stock decatted pipe is all i need.
BTW is there a trick to looking on CL? I cant seem to type in anything that will result in pipes lol
The Ebay Seller I used was bobvic2. He has 100% positive feedback and tons of good references for his header mods. While he currently does not have a listing for a 2-into-2 header (which is what you need), keep checking. He makes and sells these headers all the time.
I prefer bobvic2's technique. He cuts a rectangular opening in the collector, removes the cat, polishes the innards, then welds the cut piece back in place. He does a nice welding job, too. $135, shipped. Great deal.
#25
Don't use Craigslist. Use Ebay.
The Ebay Seller I used was bobvic2. He has 100% positive feedback and tons of good references for his header mods. While he currently does not have a listing for a 2-into-2 header (which is what you need), keep checking. He makes and sells these headers all the time.
I prefer bobvic2's technique. He cuts a rectangular opening in the collector, removes the cat, polishes the innards, then welds the cut piece back in place. He does a nice welding job, too. $135, shipped. Great deal.
The Ebay Seller I used was bobvic2. He has 100% positive feedback and tons of good references for his header mods. While he currently does not have a listing for a 2-into-2 header (which is what you need), keep checking. He makes and sells these headers all the time.
I prefer bobvic2's technique. He cuts a rectangular opening in the collector, removes the cat, polishes the innards, then welds the cut piece back in place. He does a nice welding job, too. $135, shipped. Great deal.
Last edited by FenderGuy53; 09-27-2013 at 11:20 AM.
#26
Here's another Ebay guy: Cat-less Header
#28
Just a followup question .. i know the fitment is the same, but is the Header the exact same part number on my 14, as prev years?
If they (HD) made any changes for whatever reason, id rather just have my own pipe modified. I think i saw a few companies that do it for you for a decent price.
Thanks
If they (HD) made any changes for whatever reason, id rather just have my own pipe modified. I think i saw a few companies that do it for you for a decent price.
Thanks
#29