The stage 1 download is pretty worthless. Spend the money on a tuner and the bike will run better, cooler with better mileage. The SERT is great but plan a good day at the dyno shop and spend the money on the software to tweak from there. Since you are buying a new bike, sticking with the SERT assures that there can't be finger pointing saying your brand x tuner caused a problem, and if you are ever in a place where there isn't a dyno at the dealer they can always flas you a canned map that will be about 90% correct for your bike and set up if need be.

 

Sweet....SERT it is....just wanted to make sure....the dealer is telling me not to get an auto tuner or rineharts if I wanna get the most performance

 

Get yourself a tuner. Better yet, go with wide band O2 sensors and an autotuner and you can skip the dyno time. Get a canned map from Fuel Mote or Dyno Jet and start riding and autotuning for best VE.

 

What is VE?

 

Heck... You need a tuner even if you leave your bike stock. That ECM needs to be massaged.

 

Volumetric Efficiency.

My recommendation is the Power Vision tuner but you will get a different opinion from anyone you ask.

Here is a great thread on the subject of tuning with the Powervision.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/elect...-by-admin.html

 

why did you ask any questions here if your going to believe whatever the dealer tells u?

 

You will need a tuner. Make sure a tuner is available that has the new programing to work with the firmware on whichever you chose. The PV isn't ready yet. From what I hear if you do plug the PV in it won't be recognized by the ecm. I guess you have to be patient.

 

Troll.....who said I believed them? All I was asking is if I needed a tuner for pipes and air cleaner. If I can save several hundred dollars and have the bike still run good and safely, why not? I didn't ask for someone to be a smart@$$. The SERT was chosen because that's what their guys have worked with most and there is no other dealer close by that I trust that has a dyno. I decided on my own to get a vance and hines pro pipe instead of going with an 09 head pipe and slip-ons....thanks for your concern

 

Lol chill dude I'm pretty sure rooti is not a troll.

Look around your area too, pretty sure there are more component tuners than your dealer near you.