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Old 08-10-2013, 10:18 PM
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My buddy just had his 2011) RK dynoed for $500. Fairly impressive gains in hp and torque vs canned map. We both run Se pro super tuners. I have a 96ci with Vance and Hines pro pipe and SE. Ac. HD did a canned map download based upon upgrades used. My question is, is it worth while to dial in with dyno (I have a good Indy with a dyno) or be dumb and happy. My bike generally runs good with some decel pop.
 
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A canned map is not "right" for any bike. Problem is, there are few good dyno tuners? If ya got a good tuner it is well worth it!
 
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A good tuner can get you a lot more than just HP. He can get all the throttle lag out and set the speedometer at the correct reading. Also can adjust the fuel at startup and of course get ride of all the decel popping. I used the guy at http://www.thedynodifference.com/

I have seen riders come to Dallas from a long ways off. He is really good and has tuned several bikes for me.
 
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if the tuner knows what he's doing it's well worth it
 
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id dyno it!! I have a pcv (which most tuner prefer) I jumped roughly 5 in hp and tq. the bike is like a rocket. each cylinder got done separately the rev limited was disabled. I no longer have to listen to the engine whine like a sewing maching at 30 mph in 2nd gear and 3000 rpm. the power curve is way better. its just all around a better ride and feel now. my sheets are in the dyno forum. if you look in there you can get an idea of what you may get out of your bike. most guys make there bikes run richer I actually had mine leaned out. I just cant say enough how happy I am with it.
 
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Originally Posted by 0ldhippie
A canned map is not "right" for any bike. Problem is, there are few good dyno tuners? If ya got a good tuner it is well worth it!
100% correct, though I will add that not all canned maps are created equal. Anything you get from a dealer is going to be emissions-compliant. The base TTS calibrations are at best a starting point to tune from. The Fuel Moto PV maps are based on their dyno results and are very good right out of the box.

That said, every bike is different, and every bike needs fine tuning. A quality dyno tune from a top-notch operator is an amazing thing. If you've got a good one locally, do it.
 
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I'm a convert to dyno tuning, there is no other way of knowing if the bike is optimised for performance. The improvements I have had, not just in numbers, but the smooth and seamless way the motor runs, are well worth it.
 
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I sliped-on slip-ons had a tremendous amount of decel pop and checked my plugs. Lean was the outcome verified by the dealer. They talked me into a SE Pro tuner saying V$H Fuel pack piggybacked the system and possible could fry the ECM. So I opted for the SE Pro and SE A/C wich was the cheap one allowing me to keep the original bobber cover. They did a MAP and advised for DYNO. I still have a lot of decel pop but occasionaly just a nice growl. I re-tightend the exhaust bolts and still poppy. I went back and asked for the software to see if I could MAP it myself and was told I would F-it up. Could I? Also, Wouldnt the dealer Dyno tech be good at it?
 
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