Replacing the pins in my carb
#1
Replacing the needle in my carb
I have an '02 EG Classic that I bought in the N Georgia mountains and have since moved back to Dallas, Tx. My mileage SUCKS!!! I know it is the standard Mikuni(sp) and there is only so much it will do, but I'm positive the pins were set in the bike for a high altitude. Are replacing the pins difficult (and no.......I do not have a manual)??? Or, would it be better to replace the carb all together? If I replace the carb, I want to keep the cost as low as I can but still get a good carb, what would you suggest.
Last edited by PktChg; 07-26-2013 at 04:01 PM. Reason: Wrong use of word
#2
well, mikuni has tuning guides online and many, many guys love the mikuni.
BUT experience is kinda important to ensure that you don't mess anything up.
a carb will typically have 3 or 4 circuits and the results from each circuit may be dependant on the other circuit(s) working properly.
so maybe you want to find a local tuner.
The Mikuni and the S&S often need to be adjusted if elevation changes...like if you were to ride up the Denver and beyond you might have to rejet the carb(s)
I love the Keihin CV carb ( like was stock 1990~2006 on Harleys and also Kawa and Triumph).
The trick think about the CV is that they self adjust for changes in elevation and I have ridden mine from sea level to 11,000 feet without having to touch the carb. and MPG is mid-40's
CV carbs are all over, but an experienced eye has to ensure that some goof ball with a drill hasn't screwed them up.
I usually buy them for about $40 at swaps and sell for anywhere $130~175. and I run them on my evos
this IS NOT a sales pitch, I don;t have anything for sale.
other good tuning guide is nightrider.com, bike tech, then look for carb tuning on the right side of the page
mike
BUT experience is kinda important to ensure that you don't mess anything up.
a carb will typically have 3 or 4 circuits and the results from each circuit may be dependant on the other circuit(s) working properly.
so maybe you want to find a local tuner.
The Mikuni and the S&S often need to be adjusted if elevation changes...like if you were to ride up the Denver and beyond you might have to rejet the carb(s)
I love the Keihin CV carb ( like was stock 1990~2006 on Harleys and also Kawa and Triumph).
The trick think about the CV is that they self adjust for changes in elevation and I have ridden mine from sea level to 11,000 feet without having to touch the carb. and MPG is mid-40's
CV carbs are all over, but an experienced eye has to ensure that some goof ball with a drill hasn't screwed them up.
I usually buy them for about $40 at swaps and sell for anywhere $130~175. and I run them on my evos
this IS NOT a sales pitch, I don;t have anything for sale.
other good tuning guide is nightrider.com, bike tech, then look for carb tuning on the right side of the page
mike
#3
Since I've owned, I have had a couple mechanics look at it and it works like it should, I'm just thinking the pins used are for mountain living since that is where the man lives that I bought it from. If I replace the pins, I might get a little more mileage (right now, I'm lucky to get 110 miles out of a tank and NOT thrashing it.) But, if I replace the carb, damn!!, the cost of the carb is unreal and I cannot afford that kind of money.
Last edited by PktChg; 07-26-2013 at 12:48 PM.
#4
I love the Keihin CV carb ( like was stock 1990~2006 on Harleys and also Kawa and Triumph).
The trick think about the CV is that they self adjust for changes in elevation and I have ridden mine from sea level to 11,000 feet without having to touch the carb. and MPG is mid-40's
The trick think about the CV is that they self adjust for changes in elevation and I have ridden mine from sea level to 11,000 feet without having to touch the carb. and MPG is mid-40's
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#5
The carb should be running on the lean side if it was tuned in Colorado. Not real sure what a "pin" is. Do you mean the needle clip? The needle and needle jet control the fuel from about a 1/4 to 3/4 throttle settings with the pilot jet and main jet having a little effect on this range. Unless you have a modified engine it should not be hard to find a baseline to get started. I think I would go with the CV carb for its altitude capabilities if you decide on a new carb.
#6
OP,
I think you want to find a professional tuner to sort this out- the lack of common terms for carb parts, makes me think that you'd get better results and probably less expense and trouble by taking it to a tech.
or you could study up online.
and the cost of a carb is not "unreal"... I buy 'em for under $50 all the time.
the cost is in the knowledge- you have it = cheep.
you don't have it= $$$
and if you are dumping lots of extra fuel into the motor...that could be polluting your oil and may harm the motor over time...oil smell like gas when you sniff the oil tank?
Mike
I think you want to find a professional tuner to sort this out- the lack of common terms for carb parts, makes me think that you'd get better results and probably less expense and trouble by taking it to a tech.
or you could study up online.
and the cost of a carb is not "unreal"... I buy 'em for under $50 all the time.
the cost is in the knowledge- you have it = cheep.
you don't have it= $$$
and if you are dumping lots of extra fuel into the motor...that could be polluting your oil and may harm the motor over time...oil smell like gas when you sniff the oil tank?
Mike
Last edited by mkguitar; 07-26-2013 at 02:43 PM.
#7
OP,
I think you want to find a professional tuner to sort this out- the lack of common terms for carb parts, makes me think that you'd get better results and probably less expense and trouble by taking it to a tech.
or you could study up online.
and the cost of a carb is not "unreal"... I buy 'em for under $50 all the time.
the cost is in the knowledge- you have it = cheep.
you don't have it= $$$
and if you are dumping lots of extra fuel into the motor...that could be polluting your oil and may harm the motor over time...oil smell like gas when you sniff the oil tank?
Mike
I think you want to find a professional tuner to sort this out- the lack of common terms for carb parts, makes me think that you'd get better results and probably less expense and trouble by taking it to a tech.
or you could study up online.
and the cost of a carb is not "unreal"... I buy 'em for under $50 all the time.
the cost is in the knowledge- you have it = cheep.
you don't have it= $$$
and if you are dumping lots of extra fuel into the motor...that could be polluting your oil and may harm the motor over time...oil smell like gas when you sniff the oil tank?
Mike
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#8
Ya thats about 20 MPG. Not to good. Almost sounds like the enrichner is open a little. Like I said earlier the carb should be way lean if it was tuned for Colorado. The needle is tuned by moving a C clip up to lean and lower it to richen. But it should not be that far out of tune. Changing the clip will prolly not help that much. Almost sounds like the main jet is laying in the float bowl. Or the choke is open.
#9
Ya thats about 20 MPG. Not to good. Almost sounds like the enrichner is open a little. Like I said earlier the carb should be way lean if it was tuned for Colorado. The needle is tuned by moving a C clip up to lean and lower it to richen. But it should not be that far out of tune. Changing the clip will prolly not help that much. Almost sounds like the main jet is laying in the float bowl. Or the choke is open.
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