ABS Problems, Anyone reporting this to NTSB
#71
11-08-2016 | 02:14 PM
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This is a real issue. I had the rear brake fail without warning of any kind. Luckily for me it occurred at low speed and the front brake sufficed. Bike is a 2010 flhx about 35000 miles. One minute I have a rear brake the next the pedal is froze.
After a little self diagnosis it's clear the blockage is in the abs module.
Went to my local shop to complain, bike was out of warranty. Tried to buy the part, they wouldn't sell it to me unless I let / paid them to install. When I went to pick up my bike after the repair I made it clear that the old part was mine. After a little debate they decided that the motor company would pay for the repair and I would not be getting the defective part. About $800. I did file a complaint with with NTSB.
I like the Abs in an emergency but my confidence in the system has been lost.
After a little self diagnosis it's clear the blockage is in the abs module.
Went to my local shop to complain, bike was out of warranty. Tried to buy the part, they wouldn't sell it to me unless I let / paid them to install. When I went to pick up my bike after the repair I made it clear that the old part was mine. After a little debate they decided that the motor company would pay for the repair and I would not be getting the defective part. About $800. I did file a complaint with with NTSB.
I like the Abs in an emergency but my confidence in the system has been lost.
"Customers have the right to receive back all parts replaced, except those that must be returned to a supplier or manufacturer for warranty or rebuilding purposes, which the customer is entitled to inspect (MCL 257.1333)."
Last edited by Larry64; 11-08-2016 at 02:23 PM.
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triumphsf79 (03-25-2017)
#72
11-10-2016 | 09:10 AM
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so what design changes did they make in 2012?
#73
11-10-2016 | 10:04 PM
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ABS Issue
2010 Electra Glide 20,000 miles. Front Brakes froze up, HCU is culprit, bike has been held hostage at Seminole HD for a month. Not much info being provided, possibly getting the HCU end of this month. Have made sure it is known I want my old parts returned to me. Also have reported to NTSB. This sucks, coming onto riding season and bike is living at dealer.
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11-10-2016 | 10:32 PM
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#75
11-12-2016 | 11:39 AM
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on 4-28-17 I started a thread called "warning hd abs is a tricking time bomb"
for the most part I got trashed for it. I guess you just have to experience total brake failure (like I and 3 others have at just my dealers) before you understand how serious this situation is. I really don't care if you have owned and rode 100 HD bikes without a problem, you were just lucky. And I don't care if as a auto mechanic you have replaced 100s of ABS system, my point was & still is HD ABS system DESIGN is faulty, NO, I repeat NO failure within an ABS system should defeat the operation of the brakes, you should still have brakes but without ABS. . The HD ABS design can when it fails defeat the brake(s), the flushing of the brake fluid is just a "CYA" as they knew they were late with ABS and rushed this faulty design into the 2008 to 2011 touring bikes, 430,000 of them , if this is not the case, why did they change the design starting in 2012???? the NTSB HAS opened a case as reported in the latest issue of American Iron using 3 personal injury accidents and are sampling 14 additional cases. I look for a recall of these 430,000 touring bikes with ABS 2008 to 11. I'm done, I've provided all the warnings I can.
for the most part I got trashed for it. I guess you just have to experience total brake failure (like I and 3 others have at just my dealers) before you understand how serious this situation is. I really don't care if you have owned and rode 100 HD bikes without a problem, you were just lucky. And I don't care if as a auto mechanic you have replaced 100s of ABS system, my point was & still is HD ABS system DESIGN is faulty, NO, I repeat NO failure within an ABS system should defeat the operation of the brakes, you should still have brakes but without ABS. . The HD ABS design can when it fails defeat the brake(s), the flushing of the brake fluid is just a "CYA" as they knew they were late with ABS and rushed this faulty design into the 2008 to 2011 touring bikes, 430,000 of them , if this is not the case, why did they change the design starting in 2012???? the NTSB HAS opened a case as reported in the latest issue of American Iron using 3 personal injury accidents and are sampling 14 additional cases. I look for a recall of these 430,000 touring bikes with ABS 2008 to 11. I'm done, I've provided all the warnings I can.
Not picking sides, just being devils advocate.
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Keithhu (11-14-2016)
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01-27-2017 | 04:42 PM
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It great advice! Look in the owners manual of your car or truck and it'll say the same thing. Its stops wheel cylinders and calipers from seizing up and it keeps HCU's happy because brake fluid is hydroscopic.