Stage 1 in steps - where to begin?
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Stage 1 in steps - where to begin?
New to HD baggers with a 2012 Ultra LTD and plan on doing a stage 1 piecemeal as my wallet recovers. Read in one of the threads (so much reading I can't find it again) that a good tactic was to start from the back and move forward with changes. From what I've read so far it seems like heat should be the first area addressed, thus a new header or decatted OEM. If performance improvement comes more from providing more air it would appear that AC would be next. Of course that means some form of tuning, therefore more dollars sooner. All said and done it seems that maybe working from the inside out would work well.
The bike is snug in the garage and probably won't see pavement until March. Any suggestions about an approach and components recommendations greatly appreciated.
The bike is snug in the garage and probably won't see pavement until March. Any suggestions about an approach and components recommendations greatly appreciated.
Last edited by Dobe66; 01-05-2013 at 06:59 PM.
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Oh boy, here it comes!
Stage one usually consists of exhaust, high flow air filter, and tune or download. Thats pretty much it. The sky's the limit on exhaust and a/c options. It depends on what you wanna spend. You may want to consider gutting your cat (you'll get mixed opinions on that). I did mine and am very happy, and it didn't cost me anything to do it. Or just get a new head pipe altogether and some slipons. Lots of info here on the subject. Fuel Moto is a great place to start and so is this forum. Jamie at FM is very friendly, knowledgable and is a forum sponsor. My advice is just do it all together and get it done. Hard to do it piece meal in my opinion cuz you won't get the results you want til its done, but if you have to, do pipes first.
Stage one usually consists of exhaust, high flow air filter, and tune or download. Thats pretty much it. The sky's the limit on exhaust and a/c options. It depends on what you wanna spend. You may want to consider gutting your cat (you'll get mixed opinions on that). I did mine and am very happy, and it didn't cost me anything to do it. Or just get a new head pipe altogether and some slipons. Lots of info here on the subject. Fuel Moto is a great place to start and so is this forum. Jamie at FM is very friendly, knowledgable and is a forum sponsor. My advice is just do it all together and get it done. Hard to do it piece meal in my opinion cuz you won't get the results you want til its done, but if you have to, do pipes first.
Last edited by Harleydaddy; 01-08-2013 at 01:11 AM.
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It's all a matter of personal preference(s) on intake (mod/swap, open/closed, type), exhaust (full vs. pipes, 2-1, TD's, header mod, etc.) and tuning ability (piggyback, plug-in, manual, display). Depends on what you plan to accomplish to meet your bike's desired capabilities. Only limiting factors are funds, knowledge, resources (facility, tools) and time. Still a lot of winter left so time to research...
BTW, I elected for:
- LA Choppers xXx A/C
- Bub-7 TD's (black)
- Dobeck EJK GEN3 Tuner
Bike runs/sounds great & getting ~45 MPG's so I'm pleased. Good luck!
BTW, I elected for:
- LA Choppers xXx A/C
- Bub-7 TD's (black)
- Dobeck EJK GEN3 Tuner
Bike runs/sounds great & getting ~45 MPG's so I'm pleased. Good luck!
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If you're going to do it piecemeal, do the exhaust first. When you do the air cleaner you will need to do the tune at the same time.
There are so many exhaust choice, first step is to decide on what look and sound you want, and then go from there.
Congrats on the new ride!
There are so many exhaust choice, first step is to decide on what look and sound you want, and then go from there.
Congrats on the new ride!
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[quote=DK Custom;10740010]If you're going to do it piecemeal, do the exhaust first. When you do the air cleaner you will need to do the tune at the same time.
There are so many exhaust choice, first step is to decide on what look and sound you want, and then go from there.
+1 that is the order I would do it also.
There are so many exhaust choice, first step is to decide on what look and sound you want, and then go from there.
+1 that is the order I would do it also.
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At 68 my hearings pretty shot already (too many loud bangs and dives) but I'd like to keep what I've got. I pretty much like the look as it sits with some additional chrome just for fun. Not really into any bike builder type appearance mods. Most of the riding will be two up for longer rides. Retired so I have the time and basic mechanical skills, but limited funds. What I've discovered about HD is that both the good and the bad is having so many choices.
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At 68 my hearings pretty shot already (too many loud bangs and dives) but I'd like to keep what I've got. I pretty much like the look as it sits with some additional chrome just for fun. Not really into any bike builder type appearance mods. Most of the riding will be two up for longer rides. Retired so I have the time and basic mechanical skills, but limited funds. What I've discovered about HD is that both the good and the bad is having so many choices.
Bill
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I am also planning a phased Stage 1. This thread, and the referenced article, recommend that if you are doing a stage 1 in steps that you do the air cleaner first. https://www.hdforums.com/forum/gener...r-exhaust.html
As I understand it from the research I have done, the stock mufflers can handle the increased air flow. The primary restriction point is the air intake. That's what I intend to do first--SE A/C and a download. I'll post again after I do it (although you may have made the decision by then).
As I understand it from the research I have done, the stock mufflers can handle the increased air flow. The primary restriction point is the air intake. That's what I intend to do first--SE A/C and a download. I'll post again after I do it (although you may have made the decision by then).