A Better Tuner For My Touring Bike Is On The Way
#12
10-21-2012 | 08:53 PM
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From: Epping, NH
Cobras don't like ethanol blended fuel. They like non-ethanol premium
Mine was a disaster. 09 Ultra, Big Sucker, Reinhart Ultra Duals, and Andrews 37 cams. I went through three units and my mechanic went back and forth with Cobra. Hesitation, bad mileage, and then running way too lean. Nothing they said to try worked. After four wasted months, I pulled it off and put on a PC-V with autotune. While the canned map ran great, having it tuned by a fantastic tech at Harry's Machine in Mass. gave me an additional ten house and much more torque. More time intensive but it runs great now. Mileage is back almost to what it was stock.
#17
10-29-2012 | 12:32 PM
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From: Baton Rouge, LA
I can't speak for the Cobra tuner, as I've had no experience with them nor is there much feedback about them in the forums, but I've been using the PV now for almost two years. It has matured considerably since its introduction and is now a very serious tuning device that I can recommend if you like to tweak and/or plan on doing future mods to your bike, which you said you would be doing.
Buy from Fuel Moto and you'll get a very close tune for your configuration, and when you do your cams you can get a free tune update for that setup, too, as long as it isn't some off-the-wall collection of parts.
Go check out the PV sticky thread in the ECM-Tuner section of this forum. There's almost two years and >300 pages of useful feedback from PV owners there.
Buy from Fuel Moto and you'll get a very close tune for your configuration, and when you do your cams you can get a free tune update for that setup, too, as long as it isn't some off-the-wall collection of parts.
Go check out the PV sticky thread in the ECM-Tuner section of this forum. There's almost two years and >300 pages of useful feedback from PV owners there.
#18
10-29-2012 | 12:46 PM
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From: Spokane, WA.
Cams
Hey baboo
I too took a hit on my fuel mileage, but like you, I wanted a "tuner" that would adapt to my every changing Harley without dealing with maps and retuning issues. I will say I have checked my PowerPro with every change from exhaust to the latest cams and barrels, and it has "tuned and adapted". Right now Iam pulling 85/99.78, so lets call it 85/100 :-).
Which is ballpark for a 103 with 255 cams.
But Iam leaning to a Power Vision myself.
I like the idea of a flash tuner, but with the added bonus of having real time data.
Only difference is I'll be using a fellow Wisconsinite (?), Fuel Moto will do my tuning.
Hell, I might even change cams too while Iam up there....lol
Good luck my friend
I too took a hit on my fuel mileage, but like you, I wanted a "tuner" that would adapt to my every changing Harley without dealing with maps and retuning issues. I will say I have checked my PowerPro with every change from exhaust to the latest cams and barrels, and it has "tuned and adapted". Right now Iam pulling 85/99.78, so lets call it 85/100 :-).
Which is ballpark for a 103 with 255 cams.
But Iam leaning to a Power Vision myself.
I like the idea of a flash tuner, but with the added bonus of having real time data.
Only difference is I'll be using a fellow Wisconsinite (?), Fuel Moto will do my tuning.
Hell, I might even change cams too while Iam up there....lol
Good luck my friend
Maybe try TW222 cams see Fuelmoto site for dyno sheets, PV isn't bad either.
#19
10-29-2012 | 12:49 PM
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From: Baton Rouge, LA
...put on a PC-V with autotune. While the canned map ran great, having it tuned by a fantastic tech at Harry's Machine in Mass. gave me an additional ten house and much more torque. More time intensive but it runs great now. Mileage is back almost to what it was stock.[/FONT]
If the original tune was from Fuel Moto it should've been very close and AT would simply perfect it to current conditions. I'm just curious about how a dyno tune could make that much difference if AT was used and the AFR values applied were optimal.
Last edited by iclick; 10-29-2012 at 12:57 PM.
#20
10-29-2012 | 12:50 PM
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From: Fl
I'm running the Powerpro, the only negative is a drop in mileage. From the sound of it the OP feels the same way, but the tuner did everything it advertised. If the Powervision gave as good or better performance and much better mileage it would be worth switching for me, but I wouldn't bother for similar results. To be fair, most of the Powervision features aren't of interest to me, I really just want plug and play. Waiting to hear some news from Babo!