try just shifting your weight up on the inside cheek. you don't need to move your leg out in any way. Just roll up on the inside cheek like you are "passing gas" I know you all know how to do that!! :-)

 

I used to race there too. Kinda miss it a little. But hanging off the seat does me no good on the RK (at least as far as I could tell). I was convinced after watching some other guys haul *** around corners, and they never moved off the seat. Some had tall ape hangers, and a few even kept their feet on the highway pegs the whole time.

I knew from that moment on that I needed to think differently when it came to riding the bagger compared to my sportbike.

 

Ill shift off my seat and into a hard fast sweeper. Dont do it on every turn, just when I want to haul through a long turn-usually an exit ramp off highway. I can maintain a higher speed without dragging hard parts, which allows me accelerate harder in the turn. Not shifting my weight in a particular local turn, exit speed 70. Shifting off (hanging) exit speed 75-80.

im no racer, just like riding the hell out of my bikes.

 

Tested some more yesterday evening and a bit this morning.
This is definitely what I'll do now:
- never counterbalance again (weight on outside peg) in a fast turn
- at a bare minimum, sit inline with my bike
- continue practicing moving a cheek into the turn
- not bother trying to figure out how to hang off my sled

You know, my bike really does like having my fat *** into the turn. And all it takes is a cheek and a minor torso shift. No, really. Not only does it stand up a bit straighter (which is why I started researching this whole thing), but it just plain feels better. Maybe, like the Total Control book says, my suspension has a better chance of doing its job the more upright I can turn? Whatever. There's experts that can explain it. All I can do is observe what worked for me, and what I can work on doing better within my tolerance for risk.

Yep, I'll finish Total Control, and read Twist of the Wrist too. When I take my 2nd advanced rider class later this fall, I think I'll do better thanks to your input. Much obliged.

 

 

Just sold my ZZR1200, but I've ridden sport and cruiser for years. In my experience, hanging off a heavy cruiser does not have the same effect as hanging off a sport bike. "Body English" has very little effect on a 900 lb motorcycle. It's also very hard to ride on the ***** of your feet with forward footboards.

 

you're missing the point; one can definitely increase the stability and decrease lean angle for a given speed by shifting your weight to the inside, just on the saddle. I don't think anyone was suggestion that actually 'hanging off' like on a sport bike was even possible. As you point out, you can't effectively weight the floorboards/ forward pegs. Shift your weight onto the inside 'cheek' and you'll note a significant difference.

 

I'll give it a try.