whats the best tuner
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#12
Bottom line is find a tuner(s) (guy who does dyno's)in your area and talk to them and ask them what they use and then maybe guys that you know who use the tuners.
Not all tuners are the same..
The tuner who you choose use should dictate what tuner/module you use.
If you go w/an auto tuner then that is another kettle of fish.
Not all tuners are the same..
The tuner who you choose use should dictate what tuner/module you use.
If you go w/an auto tuner then that is another kettle of fish.
#15
I just purchased the Power Vision from Fuel Moto. It is a flash based tuner which is really nice. It's more money then the Power Commander but it is also more powerful. I've had it about 2 weeks so I'm kind of new to it.
The power vision has the ability to record all the ECM channels to a file and then you can send the file to Fuel Moto to take a look. That's right where I'm at.
The power vision has the ability to record all the ECM channels to a file and then you can send the file to Fuel Moto to take a look. That's right where I'm at.
#16
The best tuner is the one that your or your mechanic is most experienced in using.
In general there are 3 types
1. Fuel only piggy back tuners , these add or remove fuel to improve performance but IMO are an incomplete way to tune. Fuel Pak, DFO, Cobra.....
2. Piggy back units like Power Commander III or V these allow a complete tune , fuel and timing and front and rear cyl , can be used with a canned MAP or aor a custom tune on a dyno. They also have "auto tuning" ability. IMO down side is it is another unit that stays on the bike
3. Flash Tuners, the SEPST, TTS, Power Vision, Direct Link , these all allow a complete tune, flash the ECM and are removed allow diagnostics to be rune, self tune, canned MAP or custom MAP, IMO this is the way to go.
Ive used the Fuel Pak, The PC III, PCV , SERT and now the Power Vision . They all worked better than the HD Download IMO, but I like the Power Vision best , it is the easiest for me.
Call jamie at Fuel Moto he will steer you in the right direction
In general there are 3 types
1. Fuel only piggy back tuners , these add or remove fuel to improve performance but IMO are an incomplete way to tune. Fuel Pak, DFO, Cobra.....
2. Piggy back units like Power Commander III or V these allow a complete tune , fuel and timing and front and rear cyl , can be used with a canned MAP or aor a custom tune on a dyno. They also have "auto tuning" ability. IMO down side is it is another unit that stays on the bike
3. Flash Tuners, the SEPST, TTS, Power Vision, Direct Link , these all allow a complete tune, flash the ECM and are removed allow diagnostics to be rune, self tune, canned MAP or custom MAP, IMO this is the way to go.
Ive used the Fuel Pak, The PC III, PCV , SERT and now the Power Vision . They all worked better than the HD Download IMO, but I like the Power Vision best , it is the easiest for me.
Call jamie at Fuel Moto he will steer you in the right direction
#17
[quote=XARAN;10129187]The best tuner is the one that your or your mechanic is most experienced in using.
In general there are 3 types
1. Fuel only piggy back tuners , these add or remove fuel to improve performance but IMO are an incomplete way to tune. Fuel Pak, DFO, Cobra.....
2. Piggy back units like Power Commander III or V these allow a complete tune , fuel and timing and front and rear cyl , can be used with a canned MAP or aor a custom tune on a dyno. They also have "auto tuning" ability. IMO down side is it is another unit that stays on the bike
3. Flash Tuners, the SEPST, TTS, Power Vision, Direct Link , these all allow a complete tune, flash the ECM and are removed allow diagnostics to be rune, self tune, canned MAP or custom MAP, IMO this is the way to go.
Ive used the Fuel Pak, The PC III, PCV , SERT and now the Power Vision . They all worked better than the HD Download IMO, but I like the Power Vision best , it is the easiest for me.
Pretty much agree 100% except you didnt mention dumping the H-D ECM for something like the Thundermax ECM (or similar product)
In general there are 3 types
1. Fuel only piggy back tuners , these add or remove fuel to improve performance but IMO are an incomplete way to tune. Fuel Pak, DFO, Cobra.....
2. Piggy back units like Power Commander III or V these allow a complete tune , fuel and timing and front and rear cyl , can be used with a canned MAP or aor a custom tune on a dyno. They also have "auto tuning" ability. IMO down side is it is another unit that stays on the bike
3. Flash Tuners, the SEPST, TTS, Power Vision, Direct Link , these all allow a complete tune, flash the ECM and are removed allow diagnostics to be rune, self tune, canned MAP or custom MAP, IMO this is the way to go.
Ive used the Fuel Pak, The PC III, PCV , SERT and now the Power Vision . They all worked better than the HD Download IMO, but I like the Power Vision best , it is the easiest for me.
Pretty much agree 100% except you didnt mention dumping the H-D ECM for something like the Thundermax ECM (or similar product)
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