Totally off topic....I just wanted to say that I liked your avatar.

 

A degree in engineering? wow! I like the dealerships that require their "salespeople" to take tests every so often on their product, thats cool.

I have to agree with the statement that consumers usually know a fair amount when going to buy a vehicle. Most people I'd wager do a fair amount of research on what they want before they go to a car/bike dealership. I've met a lot of salespeople on both sides. The person that sold me my bike was awesome, so much that I ended up buying my wife one two days later purely because of his knowledge and help.

 

who needs a salesman? when i go in to buy, i pretty much know what i want so you don't have to 'sell' me anything. give me the sales manager who has the authority to give the best price, take my money, give me my keys.....

 

 

Yeah, that was my original point. My complaint was that the "sales person" was trying to tell me that the tubeless laced wheels weren't available and didn't even exist.

Screw that. I went to another dealer and got what I wanted on order with no hassles.

 

Glad you got what you were looking for!

 

Before purchase, I studied the bike I wanted, knew the available options, and in my travels stopped by 3 or 4 dealerships just looking and talking. When I felt ready, I went to my local dealer and talked to the Sales Manager about extended warranties. In his office, he explained them all in detail, and I thanked him for his time. He had never met me before. As I shook his hand to leave, he asked "What would it take to make you the owner of this bike today?" Every price fell, costs were cut, goodies thrown in, and I started laying Ben Franklins across his desk. Deal was made.
My point is, he was willing to do whatever it takes to sell me that bike. Many salesmen forget that. Take it or leave it don't get it. If they don't know, they can find out if they want to. He should want to learn. There is someting humble about "I don't know, let's go find out about that - care for some coffee or anything?"
That one question that day got me off the fence...

 

I never knew how lucky I was. They know me by name at the dealership, they know what I ride. the sales folks are well trained on all products. you can sit down and talk at the parts, service, or sales desk and you can call in for parts by part# and they'll be waiting for you to pick up. They really make you feel special for buying from them and your appreciated.
seems to be a rare thing reading some of the post on here.

 

I agree, some salespersons may not know every detail, on any vehicle, but don't bullshit me...
Went to buy my new Mustang, I told the salesman I was looking for a new Yellow/gold color..his reply, they don't make any yellow or gold mustangs...really? I just looked at two of them! I walk away, dumbass! Like I said, just don't try and bullshit me....