Rant on Harley (pissed)
#71
Have a 2008 Ultra
Had some warranty work done at the beginning
As it is a 2008 I was thinking I need to start thinking about upgrading
It's value is and will continue to decline
After 2008 some major changes have taken place
But I am thinking of getting a VROD, totally different type bike
The thought of getting another touring Harley and then change the cams, pipes, air mod, stage one, etc..... makes me crazy
OP, sorry for all mess and hopefully happy days are ahead.
Had some warranty work done at the beginning
As it is a 2008 I was thinking I need to start thinking about upgrading
It's value is and will continue to decline
After 2008 some major changes have taken place
But I am thinking of getting a VROD, totally different type bike
The thought of getting another touring Harley and then change the cams, pipes, air mod, stage one, etc..... makes me crazy
OP, sorry for all mess and hopefully happy days are ahead.
#72
My 79 CBX snapped the cam and ate itself at 28000 miles, My sons 2006 CRF 250 blew up the first time out, cam chain guide was installed wrong from factory, NO WARRANTY! so any motorcycle you buy can have problems, I realize that when I bought my 2010 ultra there was a possablity of something going wrong and I would probably take the engine apart before I had 5000 miles to modify it (did that) and void warranty but the way I look at it it's my dream bike and not something I'm not going to try to squeese 300.000 miles out of, I know it might have problems but this is my fourth harley and beating the **** out of them for a average of around 50000 miles each I never had a mechanical problem yet. Love my harleys.
#73
#74
As my uncle says, bikes are like women they break you down till you need to get a new one.
Its really that simple, if your loyal to a brand and over the years no matter what model you pick it starts to just leave you on the side of the road more often then you ride it. You are no longer are going to depend on it they way you should. So the OP is tired of worrying when out riding, last I checked 99% of us ride because we enjoy it. How can you enjoy something if your constantly in worry about it leaving you in the middle of no-where???
And just like women there are many bikes out there.
Its really that simple, if your loyal to a brand and over the years no matter what model you pick it starts to just leave you on the side of the road more often then you ride it. You are no longer are going to depend on it they way you should. So the OP is tired of worrying when out riding, last I checked 99% of us ride because we enjoy it. How can you enjoy something if your constantly in worry about it leaving you in the middle of no-where???
And just like women there are many bikes out there.
#75
#76
As my uncle says, bikes are like women they break you down till you need to get a new one.
Its really that simple, if your loyal to a brand and over the years no matter what model you pick it starts to just leave you on the side of the road more often then you ride it. You are no longer are going to depend on it they way you should. So the OP is tired of worrying when out riding, last I checked 99% of us ride because we enjoy it. How can you enjoy something if your constantly in worry about it leaving you in the middle of no-where???
And just like women there are many bikes out there.
Its really that simple, if your loyal to a brand and over the years no matter what model you pick it starts to just leave you on the side of the road more often then you ride it. You are no longer are going to depend on it they way you should. So the OP is tired of worrying when out riding, last I checked 99% of us ride because we enjoy it. How can you enjoy something if your constantly in worry about it leaving you in the middle of no-where???
And just like women there are many bikes out there.
#77
This regulator issue has to be kept in perspective. It does suck that some bad regulators made their way into bikes and that it's taking some time for HD to sort the issue out. However, if it's only a 2012 issue it will be sorted out and HD will pick up the cost of doing so.
My opinion is that it is JUST a voltage regulator. The problem isn't some inherent mechanical problem that's going to destroy the engine and/or require costly repairs at some mysterious time in the life of the bike.
When I was ready to get back into riding, my first choice was actually a BMW R1200RT. However, as I continued doing my research I kept running across accounts of troubles with BMW's technological complexities and their notorious final drive problems. My decision to go with HD was primarily because the engine is still relatively simple, reliable and repairable and I wanted to keep it for a very long time.
If you really want to know about a mechanical horror story, Google Porsche and IMS. For 10 years, Porsche's 911s, Caymans and Boxsters had engines with Intermediate Shaft (IMS) time bombs. the IMS was a weak link and at any time in the life of the car it could go bad. The reasons and conditions for this are still speculation. When it goes bad, the engine is completely destroyed and either you're left with a roller or have to cough up $18,000 for a new engine. To this day Porsche will not admit that their design was flawed and led to these catastrophic engine failures.
My opinion is that it is JUST a voltage regulator. The problem isn't some inherent mechanical problem that's going to destroy the engine and/or require costly repairs at some mysterious time in the life of the bike.
When I was ready to get back into riding, my first choice was actually a BMW R1200RT. However, as I continued doing my research I kept running across accounts of troubles with BMW's technological complexities and their notorious final drive problems. My decision to go with HD was primarily because the engine is still relatively simple, reliable and repairable and I wanted to keep it for a very long time.
If you really want to know about a mechanical horror story, Google Porsche and IMS. For 10 years, Porsche's 911s, Caymans and Boxsters had engines with Intermediate Shaft (IMS) time bombs. the IMS was a weak link and at any time in the life of the car it could go bad. The reasons and conditions for this are still speculation. When it goes bad, the engine is completely destroyed and either you're left with a roller or have to cough up $18,000 for a new engine. To this day Porsche will not admit that their design was flawed and led to these catastrophic engine failures.
#78
I'll chime in too. I had a '09 BMW R1200RT and finally got fed up with the numerous electrical issues and blown rear drive. Yes everything was covered under warranty, but in and out of the shop many different times and then 3 weeks waiting on the selling dealer to get around to fixing the drive was just too much. I bought my '12 Ultra because I had super service with the local HD shop with my Buell so when it I finally had it with the Beemer I marched down to the shop that treated me so well. Anything mechanical could and usually will have problems, but to me at least, it's how the problems are handled. Say what you will about Harley, but compared to most BMW or Jap shops, they are normally far superior. Also, think Harley repairs/service are expensive, BMW makes HD look like an absolute bargain!
#79
Happy with my Harley and my Vic. Have had a bit more trouble with the Harley than the Cross Country but expected that. There's a Victory promotion going on for test rides if you're serious. http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-...12challenge100
There's also the Harley it all starts with a test ride video in case you need to get reinspired: http://vimeo.com/39475536
There's also the Harley it all starts with a test ride video in case you need to get reinspired: http://vimeo.com/39475536