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Old 03-16-2012, 08:39 PM
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Default Can't get the "cushy" Ohlins ride

Despite unending and patient help from Howard, I still can't get the cushy ride (even solo) from my 3-3 Ohlins on my 2000 EGC that many of you describe. Hate to keep calling him. I have his progressively-wound springs and have adjusted the sag he instructed: with rear wheel in air, compress springs 3-5mm. Due to my short inseam I have the Pingel 1" lowering blocks. I've adjusted the rebound up and down, but still feel the bumps that many Ohlin riders on the forum say their bike "floats" over. Perhaps it's due to my weight at 140, or that I am expecting too much, but I hope not. Any suggestions?
 
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:54 PM
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Did you tell Howard about the lowering blocks? I think that's your problem.
 
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:03 PM
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Until you get that preload adjusted correctly, compression and rebound damping adjustments are a waste of time. +1 on those lowering blocks...with the limited travel of HDs, taking an inch away from that travel is huge. Thats 25.4 mm worth of shock travel GONE. You need to tell Howard about those lowering blocks and see what he advises.
 
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Originally Posted by Arizona Mike
Due to my short inseam I have the Pingel 1" lowering blocks.
Well, this worries me. The #3-3's have 3" of stroke, so are these lowering blocks cutting it down another inch? That would leave about the same travel as you have with stock SG shocks, which isn't much. Try removing the Pingels and try it.

Perhaps it's due to my weight at 140, or that I am expecting too much, but I hope not. Any suggestions?
I weigh 170# and have the #2-3 with no lowering blocks and >4" of travel. Smooooooth.
 
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Also the lowering blocks change the geometry of the shocks by changing the angle of incidence from shock to swing arm travel.
 
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:41 PM
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Also the lowering blocks change the geometry of the shocks by changing the angle of incidence from shock to swing arm travel.
should make the springs softer?
Steeper angle, more torque on the springs....

I think
 
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You should have full travel with the 3s..are you setting sag, with you on the bike, and the bike on the ground?,mthatnismhow it should be done, your 3 s should measure about 13 inches eye to eye, bolt to bolt center..with you on the bike, this should be reduced by approx, 1 inch....then the other variable, is you can adjust the compression with the adjuster on the shock,,
 
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Lowering blocks should not make abig difference,unless they are extreme.. My estimate is you should be able to run blocks in the second hole with 3-3 s without bottoming...
 
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U want to sell them?
 
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:06 AM
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Thanks for the input. For Shooter5074 and Lowcountry Joe, no, I haven't told Howard about the lowering blocks, but I know he'd advise to remove them. For iclick, my problem is my 30" inseam. For dstrati, Howard advised the different way of setting the sag for his progressively-wound springs; that's what you see in my original post. Also, my Pingel lowering blocks have only one hole; for 1" of lowering.
If I remove the lowering blocks I won't be flat-footed when seated, and this balancing problem's made worse when riding two-up. I'm wondering if i should've got the shorter 2-2s instead, and then not use lowering blocks.
 

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