Tuner recommendations
#31
03-09-2012 | 05:25 PM
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From: Hanscom AFB, MA
Newbie help with sepst
Hey yall new to this forum. not sure if this is the right place to post this so please bare with me...
Been doing a lot of research and finally broke down and bought the SEPST. I didnt do any tunning, it was all done at the dealer.
My bike is an 04 RKC. only add ons are, SE Stage 1 air cleaner kit and SE Slipons with original headers. my questions are...
1. the dealer only got 75.47 HP and 82.15 after using the SEPST and Dyno. does anyone think these numbers are low?
2. How do I actually know that they used the SEPST? (didnt buy the software or cables).
they charged me 210.00 and kept the bike for bout 6 hrs.
not too sure what a stock scooter's numbers would look like but I just think these are really low.
any suggestions? thanks
Been doing a lot of research and finally broke down and bought the SEPST. I didnt do any tunning, it was all done at the dealer.
My bike is an 04 RKC. only add ons are, SE Stage 1 air cleaner kit and SE Slipons with original headers. my questions are...
1. the dealer only got 75.47 HP and 82.15 after using the SEPST and Dyno. does anyone think these numbers are low?
2. How do I actually know that they used the SEPST? (didnt buy the software or cables).
they charged me 210.00 and kept the bike for bout 6 hrs.
not too sure what a stock scooter's numbers would look like but I just think these are really low.
any suggestions? thanks
#32
03-09-2012 | 06:20 PM
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Joined: Nov 2008
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From: Ohio
Tuning, Auto tuning..canned maps..
Guys, it seems that no matter what the question is, rather than relate the options, everybody wants to state opinions. A little story here, promise to keep it short.. A friend of mine , used to work at Thiels in Ohio, the home of John Miller Racing, some kind of world record holder. Some of you may have heard of them.. Anyway these guys were renound for builds and tuning..One winter they thought they would get ahead and Dyno tune all the winter's builds..those that were remaining in-house storage.. Now the process usually involves riding after the dyno session, cause you cant ride a dyno, and since it was winter and they couldnt ride them..in the spring they got to retune every one of the builds.. the dyno is a tool, nothing more..It will get you close..however, nothing, due to differing circumstances, build, weight, gearing, etc..is engraved in stone. And remember the old addage..Opinions are like a**holes everybodys got one. Sorry so long, Scooter
#33
03-09-2012 | 06:25 PM
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From: SoCal
Hey yall new to this forum. not sure if this is the right place to post this so please bare with me...
Been doing a lot of research and finally broke down and bought the SEPST. I didnt do any tunning, it was all done at the dealer.
My bike is an 04 RKC. only add ons are, SE Stage 1 air cleaner kit and SE Slipons with original headers. my questions are...
1. the dealer only got 75.47 HP and 82.15 after using the SEPST and Dyno. does anyone think these numbers are low?
2. How do I actually know that they used the SEPST? (didnt buy the software or cables).
they charged me 210.00 and kept the bike for bout 6 hrs.
not too sure what a stock scooter's numbers would look like but I just think these are really low.
any suggestions? thanks
Been doing a lot of research and finally broke down and bought the SEPST. I didnt do any tunning, it was all done at the dealer.
My bike is an 04 RKC. only add ons are, SE Stage 1 air cleaner kit and SE Slipons with original headers. my questions are...
1. the dealer only got 75.47 HP and 82.15 after using the SEPST and Dyno. does anyone think these numbers are low?
2. How do I actually know that they used the SEPST? (didnt buy the software or cables).
they charged me 210.00 and kept the bike for bout 6 hrs.
not too sure what a stock scooter's numbers would look like but I just think these are really low.
any suggestions? thanks
#34
03-09-2012 | 06:26 PM
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From: Western South Dakota
Hey yall new to this forum. not sure if this is the right place to post this so please bare with me...
Been doing a lot of research and finally broke down and bought the SEPST. I didnt do any tunning, it was all done at the dealer.
My bike is an 04 RKC. only add ons are, SE Stage 1 air cleaner kit and SE Slipons with original headers. my questions are...
1. the dealer only got 75.47 HP and 82.15 after using the SEPST and Dyno. does anyone think these numbers are low?
2. How do I actually know that they used the SEPST? (didnt buy the software or cables).
they charged me 210.00 and kept the bike for bout 6 hrs.
not too sure what a stock scooter's numbers would look like but I just think these are really low.
any suggestions? thanks
Been doing a lot of research and finally broke down and bought the SEPST. I didnt do any tunning, it was all done at the dealer.
My bike is an 04 RKC. only add ons are, SE Stage 1 air cleaner kit and SE Slipons with original headers. my questions are...
1. the dealer only got 75.47 HP and 82.15 after using the SEPST and Dyno. does anyone think these numbers are low?
2. How do I actually know that they used the SEPST? (didnt buy the software or cables).
they charged me 210.00 and kept the bike for bout 6 hrs.
not too sure what a stock scooter's numbers would look like but I just think these are really low.
any suggestions? thanks
Next add for you would be the cams..
That would give you another bump of 7-10 ponies and about same in TQ.
However you would have to dyno-er again.
Price wise, you did ok..
#35
03-09-2012 | 06:32 PM
I picked up the revolution performance ems from fuel moto at a great price. It is an auto tune setup with wide band 02 sensor's,the way it work's is you send them your ecm with all the info about your engine stock,stage 1,cam's,big bore,ect. They install a base map and it adjust's from there no dyno tune or anything,some on here don't like the thought of sending the ecm out but i've heard more good than bad about it.
Just put some mile's on yesterday for the first time with it and it ran great,plug's looked nice and tan. Just curious how it's gonna work when I do big bore and cam's!
Just put some mile's on yesterday for the first time with it and it ran great,plug's looked nice and tan. Just curious how it's gonna work when I do big bore and cam's!
#37
03-09-2012 | 06:45 PM
Guys, it seems that no matter what the question is, rather than relate the options, everybody wants to state opinions. A little story here, promise to keep it short.. A friend of mine , used to work at Thiels in Ohio, the home of John Miller Racing, some kind of world record holder. Some of you may have heard of them.. Anyway these guys were renound for builds and tuning..One winter they thought they would get ahead and Dyno tune all the winter's builds..those that were remaining in-house storage.. Now the process usually involves riding after the dyno session, cause you cant ride a dyno, and since it was winter and they couldnt ride them..in the spring they got to retune every one of the builds.. the dyno is a tool, nothing more..It will get you close..however, nothing, due to differing circumstances, build, weight, gearing, etc..is engraved in stone. And remember the old addage..Opinions are like a**holes everybodys got one. Sorry so long, Scooter
Last edited by stogieluvr60; 03-09-2012 at 06:47 PM.
#38
03-09-2012 | 06:50 PM
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Joined: Feb 2011
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From: Tybee Island Georgia
+1 they are absolutely Top Notch! I wouldnt buy from anyone else. Just my two cents though. And I Do Kinda Like Kool Aide Too!
I would call Fuel Moto for advice, as they sell most tuners on the market. As for the "drink the koolaid" comments from one respondent, Fuel Moto has developed their reputation by providing excellent products and support for their customers, and it isn't surprising that there is a high level of appreciation for them in this and other forums. If people sing their praises based on good experiences they aren't drinking anyone's Koolaide.
They don't sell TTS or the Harley tuner (SEPST) but sell and support most others. There is no need to spend $1k on a tuner, and in fact I don't know of one that costs that much.
They don't sell TTS or the Harley tuner (SEPST) but sell and support most others. There is no need to spend $1k on a tuner, and in fact I don't know of one that costs that much.
#39
03-11-2012 | 08:15 PM
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Joined: Apr 2009
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From: Oxford MI
uuugh!! AFR's, VE tables, OP's, PCV's...kool-aid! I don't know what you guys are even talkin' about.
I keep reading all the threads and I am still lost.
I am just a guy with a '09 FXDC. I have a SE AC and V&H Straightshot Slip-ons. I just want it to run a bit better, run cooler and get the best performance for what I'm running at the moment...
The dealer says get the SERT and have them Dyno it. It'll cost about $460 for the SERT from them (I'm sure I can get it for less) and about $320 to get it Dyno'ed. I don't know, it sounds reasonable enough... You guys on here talk about the 763 other options...lol
If anyone needs me I'll be hanging from a rafter...lol
I keep reading all the threads and I am still lost.
I am just a guy with a '09 FXDC. I have a SE AC and V&H Straightshot Slip-ons. I just want it to run a bit better, run cooler and get the best performance for what I'm running at the moment...
The dealer says get the SERT and have them Dyno it. It'll cost about $460 for the SERT from them (I'm sure I can get it for less) and about $320 to get it Dyno'ed. I don't know, it sounds reasonable enough... You guys on here talk about the 763 other options...lol
If anyone needs me I'll be hanging from a rafter...lol
#40
03-11-2012 | 10:05 PM
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From: Asheville
just do what makes you feel good.. its not a pissing contest.. no one is going to order a tts from peter and tell you to get a powervision from paul.. get what you can afford and what feels good to you.. i chose a powervision for the capabilities vs. price.. also i have free lifetime tunes with jamie at fuel moto.. could i have gotten 1.5 hp somewhere else? sure but jamie took great care of me and sent me a heck of a map and my bike runs like a champ.. im happy but more importantly.. i'm out riding my bike instead of measuring it up to others on the internet
just my .02
just my .02