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Old 03-07-2012 | 01:06 PM
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Standard on the bikes with 103 ci There must be something to it
 
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Old 03-07-2012 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jinks
I also have oil temp gauges on the bike. The oil cooler dropped the temp 25 to 30 degrees. The side most people ignore is the down side. Even with a working thermostat the first thing I did after installing the cooler was have a cover made. In really cold weather a thermostat failure can have you trying to pump some really thick oil. Haven't had to use the cover yet, but even on a summer day running 205 to 220 on the oil temp gauge I've had a cold rain drop the temp below the 110 degree threshold on the gauge.
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yes , but the fan rarely kicks on it cools so good , I could have gotten by without it
I am new to oil cooler, but I don't see (assuming) how the failure of the TS will create thick oil, even in cold temperature. Before the oil reaches the set temperature, the oil still flows, regardless the TS "open" or "closed".
I also don't see the possibilities that drop the oil temp down to 110F in the rain, especially in Florida.
The fan is only for stop or slow moving condition, when the bike is moving, the fan is not "count".
 
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Old 03-07-2012 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jackhis
I am new to oil cooler, but I don't see (assuming) how the failure of the TS will create thick oil, even in cold temperature. Before the oil reaches the set temperature, the oil still flows, regardless the TS "open" or "closed".
I also don't see the possibilities that drop the oil temp down to 110F in the rain, especially in Florida.
The fan is only for stop or slow moving condition, when the bike is moving, the fan is not "count".
Rain flash cools your motor, you can actually watch the needle drop until it falls off the scale just like jinks observed. My fan improves cooling even at highway speeds, not just in stopped or slow moving traffic.
 
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Old 03-07-2012 | 01:41 PM
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I have installed the Harley premium oil cooler and I'm very pleased with it and in the heat of the New Mexican summers I really notice the difference.
 
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Old 03-07-2012 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jackhis
I am new to oil cooler, but I don't see (assuming) how the failure of the TS will create thick oil, even in cold temperature. Before the oil reaches the set temperature, the oil still flows, regardless the TS "open" or "closed".
I also don't see the possibilities that drop the oil temp down to 110F in the rain, especially in Florida.
The fan is only for stop or slow moving condition, when the bike is moving, the fan is not "count".
I probably shouldn't have mentioned it since it's not much of a problem anymore. Back in the day of older oil pumps & single grade oil tryin' to run hard while pumpin' cool thick oil wasn't a particularly good idea. Even then the oil continued to flow, just not efficiently. With today's synthetic multi-grade oils it would be much less of a problem. However, an oil cooler will cool the oil, & it *will* drop the oil temp below the 110 degrees it takes to register on the Harley gauge. I've done it many times in wet weather. The first time will surprise you!
 
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Old 03-07-2012 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fabrik8r
Rain flash cools your motor, you can actually watch the needle drop until it falls off the scale just like jinks observed. My fan improves cooling even at highway speeds, not just in stopped or slow moving traffic.
Rain cools the engine temp, but I doubt that the rain will cool oil temp down to 110F. I do have an oil temp gauge on my bike, and keeping the oil temp below 250F in FL, without a better oil cooler (mine is STD HD oil cooler) is impossible. Maybe, someone have a PV hook up to the bike while riding, so they can monitor the engine temp. during the rain.
And we are talking about the oil cooler fan, unless you are talking about something else.
 

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Old 03-07-2012 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jackhis
Rain cools the engine temp, but I doubt that the rain will cool oil temp down to 110F. I do have an oil temp gauge on my bike, and keeping the oil temp below 250F in FL, without a better oil cooler (mine is STD HD oil cooler) is impossible. Maybe, someone have a PV hook up to the bike while riding, so they can monitor the engine temp. during the rain.
And we are talking about the oil cooler fan, unless you are talking about something else.
Sounds like you have either a gauge problem or a tuning issue. If you'll notice, I also live in Florida. I rarely see 230 on my dash gauge, & I have a digital dipstick that backs it up, & the only time I've seen anything close to 250 was in Las Vegas after crossing Death Valley. And, like I've said a couple of times in this thread, rain *will* cool the *oil* to below the 110 threshold of the Harley oil temp gauge. I have experienced it many times in the last 4 years.
 
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Old 03-07-2012 | 03:36 PM
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I live in Florida as well , I run Dakota Digital Gauges so I have an oil temp gauge on my dash , the sensor is in the pan by the drain plug so I am getting my readings there , dipsticks are getting the reading on top of the oil pan, I don't know what difference it would make , in any case my temp readings with the HD cooler were typically 240*-255* , after installing the Jagg they typically are in the 215*-225* range , in stop and go heavy traffic when the fan kicks on it never goes above 230* , the biggest difference for me is comfort , when it was in the 250* range my leg was on fire and now it feels no hotter to me than the old evo motors , I too have seen my temp drop to 110* when caught in rain
 
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Old 03-07-2012 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jackhis
Rain cools the engine temp, but I doubt that the rain will cool oil temp down to 110F. I do have an oil temp gauge on my bike, and keeping the oil temp below 250F in FL, without a better oil cooler (mine is STD HD oil cooler) is impossible. Maybe, someone have a PV hook up to the bike while riding, so they can monitor the engine temp. during the rain.
And we are talking about the oil cooler fan, unless you are talking about something else.
Sorry man, I should have specified the oil cooler fan, I was going to correct it but I got pulled away to work. ET drops off almost immediately when you run into rain, like putting a hot skillet under water, since ET take the lead in the big thermal picture, OT follows very quickly, it takes a minute or so but you can watch the needle slowly drop. If your interested in dropping your oil temp a little more, my cold thermostat will bring you down another 15-20, simple couple minute swap on the HD adapter. PM me.
 
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Old 03-07-2012 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fabrik8r
Sorry man, I should have specified the oil cooler fan, I was going to correct it but I got pulled away to work. ET drops off almost immediately when you run into rain, like putting a hot skillet under water, since ET take the lead in the big thermal picture, OT follows very quickly, it takes a minute or so but you can watch the needle slowly drop. If your interested in dropping your oil temp a little more, my cold thermostat will bring you down another 15-20, simple couple minute swap on the HD adapter. PM me.
Fab,
I'm interested in your cold thermostat, sent you a pm
 


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