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How To Tell If You're Running Lean?

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Old 02-23-2012 | 05:39 PM
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if you knew what you were doing you could put a voltmeter on the o2 sensor.

.45 volts is stoich ( lower voltage is lean, higher voltage is rich)- corrected- typo left out the "4"


this is how i tune my carbed bikes and cars- even the panhead and the trail 90

mount an o2 sensor, and ride around with a voltmeter on my bars.

noting load and throttle positions as I go.

pocketful of screwdrivers helps too.


pt 2. I used to read plugs- it just doesn't offer any useful data this day and age with modern systems

to properly read a plug you would install new plugs, and run the motor at the rpm and load of interest, then kill the motor and coast to the shoulder and pull the plugs and read them.

install new plugs and repeat at same or new rpm range.

trying to gather info from a plug that has been used at idle, low speed, cruise and WOT is useless as the observer cannot determine under which conditions the plug deposits ( or lack of) occurred.






if you are worried, you can add nightrider.com XIEDS








Mike
 

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Old 02-24-2012 | 12:01 AM
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The new 12mm O2 sensors on the 2010-up touring bikes aren't 0-1v out. It works with the 18mm versions, though.
 
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Old 02-24-2012 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by blusmbl
The new 12mm O2 sensors on the 2010-up touring bikes aren't 0-1v out. It works with the 18mm versions, though.
Can you tell me more- I assumed like many cars the 4 wire was

Heater +

chassis ground

signal +

signal - ( often just grounded on a 3 wire system)


thanks, Mike
 
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Old 02-24-2012 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ocezam
As far as I'm concerned, new bikes run too lean from the factory. If I were riding a bone stock bike I would still have put on XIED's or VIED's. Also as far as I'm concerned, XIED's are all you will need through a stage one upgrade. Beyond that, cams/headwork, I'd install a tuner.
My experience says you are correct.
 
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Old 02-24-2012 | 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnScrip
I was going to say --- If the bike is stock and has any insignias that say something like "HARLEY-DAVIDSON" on them, that's indicative of a lean condition.

LOL...........good one!
 
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Old 02-24-2012 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TUCCI
When I had a Metric bike I took it to an indy once to have em sniff my emissions and they were able to tell if I was phat or lean, maybe you should have em sniff your exhaust?

That sounds nasty.
 
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Old 05-31-2012 | 02:20 PM
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i dont know much about fuel injected but on a carb it will pop at the lower end.
 
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