? about roller cams ans synthetic oil
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If you believe everything a salesmen tells you I'll bet you own a lot of swampy real estate.
I've been running Amsoil for years in big bore, hot rod Twin Cams. I haven't had a bit of trouble except for irate cops who think I ride too fast. The FACT is that the proper synthetic for your bike will lubricate better at both high and low temperatures. Start up is when most wear occurs in an engine. Synthetic flows bettter when coldn hence less wear. Synthetic also doesn't break down as easily at high temps, which is where air cooled engines run often.
Believe what you want, it's your sled. Me, I know what has worked for me for years and the facts behind it. I won't run anything but synthetic in my engines, and I believe very little any salesman has ever told me.
I've been running Amsoil for years in big bore, hot rod Twin Cams. I haven't had a bit of trouble except for irate cops who think I ride too fast. The FACT is that the proper synthetic for your bike will lubricate better at both high and low temperatures. Start up is when most wear occurs in an engine. Synthetic flows bettter when coldn hence less wear. Synthetic also doesn't break down as easily at high temps, which is where air cooled engines run often.
Believe what you want, it's your sled. Me, I know what has worked for me for years and the facts behind it. I won't run anything but synthetic in my engines, and I believe very little any salesman has ever told me.
have you ever got out a flow meter & checked the flow yourself? (not trying to be a DICK) im sure your going on personal experience & what you have read. like we have never been lied to buy the automotive industry.
yes synthetic is good in the right use.
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thanks for the reply. I noticed you have done a lot to your bike according to your signature but I didn't see any motor work mentioned. Do you have any personal experience with roller cams and synthetic oil? I run the same oil in my 09 SG and ut it doesnt have any motor work done. Only ac, fat cat and pcv. So I certainly don't know. Hence the reason I posted is for those that have actually installed, run and used synthetic oil in a harley with a roller cam in it to help qualify or disqualify the mechanics statement that the oil will flatten the cam and cause leaks.
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If the "techs" mentioned earlier who make these statements have some bearings that have been worn flat, it wasn't because they were running synthetic oil. I certainly would never trust any bike or car of mine to a mechanic who made statements like this.
Originally Posted by hog95023
[Responding to hougz79...] Thanks for the reply. I noticed you have done a lot to your bike according to your signature but I didn't see any motor work mentioned. Do you have any personal experience with roller cams and synthetic oil.
Last edited by iclick; 02-06-2012 at 01:46 PM.
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thanks for the reply. I noticed you have done a lot to your bike according to your signature but I didn't see any motor work mentioned. Do you have any personal experience with roller cams and synthetic oil? I run the same oil in my 09 SG and ut it doesnt have any motor work done. Only ac, fat cat and pcv. So I certainly don't know. Hence the reason I posted is for those that have actually installed, run and used synthetic oil in a harley with a roller cam in it to help qualify or disqualify the mechanics statement that the oil will flatten the cam and cause leaks.
I DO however know many mechanics, some great, some bad. And many of them do have some "beliefs" on things that may or may not be true. I think the take away is that this is a myth and to seek the advice of another mechanic.
The title mechanic is exactly that. A title. There are degrees of knowledge and proficiency. 2 examples of some "mechanics" advice given to me over the past 2 months:
1.) Local HD dealer told me that I can't put "just cams in a 96" motor" that it won't run right. He said they only work in 103" kits. Strike one. (In their defense, they only put in SE 103 Stage II kits and with ECM download and do not have a dyno. They don't even like using a SEPST with canned maps).
2.) Called an Indy in my town. Asked him about builds he's done. His reply was "working on a system I like to call 'Sneaky Pete', it's a poor man's nitro...never did get it to work in cars, but I think I could get it to work in your bike". I told him best of luck and hung up the phone. Strike two.
Both of these "nuggets of wisdom" came from certified mechanics. I think iClick's reply that came from an actual engineer is about the best answer posted so far.
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for years harley didn't sell synthetics,hence the we don't sell it so BASH it,they kept bashing it even after the cvo bikes started using it from the factory,kinda like power commanders will fry your ecm.harley hates when aftermarket takes their parts $. and bad dealers will say anything,so much so that some people start believing it.
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