Cold Start Lifter Noise
#11
Bob has probably forgotten more than I'll ever know about cams and I am not trying to take anything away from him, but, his ramps are pretty dang aggressive. That may be part of the issue but I'm not convinced that it is all of it because lots of guys run his stuff on this forum and this is not something you read about a lot here. Those steep ramps throw those valves open and slam them shut which is probably in part why they build good numbers but for a street bike, I personally don't see a need to beat the valve train like that on a street bike. Obviously racing is another story. Please let me know how this turns out. On the measuring part, that's how I would measure it and three full turns on the tapered pushrods should be plenty deep enough. I almost always set them at 2-1/2. I have not used any of the Wood directional lifters, what is different about them? What kind of check valve do they have? Why do they bleed down slower?
Last edited by 1931jamesw; 01-03-2012 at 07:41 AM.
#12
I just completed a FM 107 build on my 08 RoadGlide, have about 700 miles in it so far. I am running the TW777s along with the Wood lifters adjusted for 2 flats past 4 full turns. I have no more noise than stock, so I don't think its the agressive ramps of the cams.
I am not familiar with your lifters, I would contact the manufacturer and see what they suggest. Every manufacturer seems to have a different "sweet spot" for where they want the preload to be..
Good luck, I hate top end noise,
Doug
I am not familiar with your lifters, I would contact the manufacturer and see what they suggest. Every manufacturer seems to have a different "sweet spot" for where they want the preload to be..
Good luck, I hate top end noise,
Doug
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#14
How long does your's take to quiet down in the 30s?
And who's lifters are you running?
It may be cold temps, thick oil and slow pump up rate on the lifters. I do know my Harley B lifters never made this much noise starting up on even colder days. After some testing and measuring this week I should know. I've heard from both sides of woods cams, I'm not here to put down anyone's products, just trying to give what information I have and trying find a solution to my issue.
And who's lifters are you running?
It may be cold temps, thick oil and slow pump up rate on the lifters. I do know my Harley B lifters never made this much noise starting up on even colder days. After some testing and measuring this week I should know. I've heard from both sides of woods cams, I'm not here to put down anyone's products, just trying to give what information I have and trying find a solution to my issue.
Last edited by Hog Yild; 01-03-2012 at 09:16 AM.
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#16
I started with 10/40 and put my first 100 on that oil, switched to 20/50 at the advice of the local Indy. I haven't heard much difference with either oil. If the time was any shorter, I didn't notice it. I'm around 2 minutes till noise subsides in the 40s. I think I will try one more pushrod adjust to 3-1/4 to 3-1/2 turns (at 2-1/2, 24tpi now) and run itfor a few cold starts to see if I get better results.
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#18
I hope there is not a problem with those lifters. They are the same ones I will be using when I do my cam swap. My indy recommended them and said he has always had good results with them. He assured me they would serve me well for my purposes and the price can't be beat. I'll be keeping an eye on this.