New wheel rotor question
#11
Would going from a 4 piston caliper to a 6 piston caliper make up for loss of stopping power?
#12
If...you want the same rotor (albeit 1 instead of 2) AND the same "sensation" on the brake lever AND the same brake torque using the same master cylinder then you need the same total area - ie
4*(original piston area) = 6 * (new piston area)
Where Piston Area = Pi*(diam^2)/4
Incidentally, the comment made about heat dissipation is quite correct
#13
It is not necessarily down to the number of pistons but rather the total area of the bank of pistons.
If...you want the same rotor (albeit 1 instead of 2) AND the same "sensation" on the brake lever AND the same brake torque using the same master cylinder then you need the same total area - ie
4*(original piston area) = 6 * (new piston area)
Where Piston Area = Pi*(diam^2)/4
Incidentally, the comment made about heat dissipation is quite correct
If...you want the same rotor (albeit 1 instead of 2) AND the same "sensation" on the brake lever AND the same brake torque using the same master cylinder then you need the same total area - ie
4*(original piston area) = 6 * (new piston area)
Where Piston Area = Pi*(diam^2)/4
Incidentally, the comment made about heat dissipation is quite correct
I'm not a aggressive rider at all but if the mechanics don't work then I will look for other solutions. I appreciate your advise.
#14
Have to put up with me on this lol I understand about the heat dissipation, would a single , larger rotor work? Don't have this problem on any of my tractors lol
I'm not a aggressive rider at all but if the mechanics don't work then I will look for other solutions. I appreciate your advise.
I'm not a aggressive rider at all but if the mechanics don't work then I will look for other solutions. I appreciate your advise.
#15
Have to put up with me on this lol I understand about the heat dissipation, would a single , larger rotor work? Don't have this problem on any of my tractors lol
I'm not a aggressive rider at all but if the mechanics don't work then I will look for other solutions. I appreciate your advise.
I'm not a aggressive rider at all but if the mechanics don't work then I will look for other solutions. I appreciate your advise.
This is why, in general, the aftermarket solutions adjust a number of variables. Understanding the effect of each allows you to do the maths. If you want me to do a calc check for you PM me details of the various products and I will be happy to oblige
#16
you have personal experience on this? or just doing what most on this forum do best, which is spew opinionated BS that they overheard at starbucks, or their service department? you should probably get real...
OP, there are plenty of us who ditched the stock dual brakes for singles. we're running 21, 23 & 26" wheels on a single 13" caliper. yes, there are considerations, but its quick to explain.
if you want more info, PM me or slothy (grabber blue SG w/ a 26")
also, conatact Paul at Native Custom Baggers or Cameron at CamTech Customs camtechcustom.com
OP, there are plenty of us who ditched the stock dual brakes for singles. we're running 21, 23 & 26" wheels on a single 13" caliper. yes, there are considerations, but its quick to explain.
if you want more info, PM me or slothy (grabber blue SG w/ a 26")
also, conatact Paul at Native Custom Baggers or Cameron at CamTech Customs camtechcustom.com
However, I do have an civil engineering degree from an accredited US university and have a fairly good grasp on the physics associated with bringing a moving object to rest. As I said, it is an individuals personal decision to remove half the braking capability of their bike for asthetics, but do not expect it to perform as before. Oh yea, have a great day.
#17
Opinion yes, BS no. Don't go to Starbuks either.
However, I do have an civil engineering degree from an accredited US university and have a fairly good grasp on the physics associated with bringing a moving object to rest. As I said, it is an individuals personal decision to remove half the braking capability of their bike for asthetics, but do not expect it to perform as before. Oh yea, have a great day.
However, I do have an civil engineering degree from an accredited US university and have a fairly good grasp on the physics associated with bringing a moving object to rest. As I said, it is an individuals personal decision to remove half the braking capability of their bike for asthetics, but do not expect it to perform as before. Oh yea, have a great day.
all the math and physics in the world looks great on an internet forum, but unless you've built a bike and tested it then you dont know for sure.
#18
I am looking to put a new wheel on the front of my '07 SG.
My questions this: Can I go from a dual rotor to a single rotor and still keep the same braking ? Not if you retain the OEM caliper and rotor. I would hate to spend $$$ on a nice wheel only to have most of it covered by two clunky looking stock rotors. Most wheel vendors offer matching rotors.
Is there a company that makes rotors that are not as clunky looking as the HD ones?
My questions this: Can I go from a dual rotor to a single rotor and still keep the same braking ? Not if you retain the OEM caliper and rotor. I would hate to spend $$$ on a nice wheel only to have most of it covered by two clunky looking stock rotors. Most wheel vendors offer matching rotors.
Is there a company that makes rotors that are not as clunky looking as the HD ones?
Good luck with your project.
Carl
PS: On my '04, I replaced the OEM front calipers, rotors, and m/c with Brembos while retaining the HD stainless brake lines and noticed a huge improvement in braking power; the HD tech who test rode my bike after bleeding the lines said he almost went over the gas tank when he hit the front brakes hard--that's using dual calipers.
#19
I can tell you about the 1 guy I met that had a single sided 13" rotor with a 6 piston Pm caliper with a 21" front wheel on a FLHX. He got the bike that way and he didn't say anything negative about the front brake. But then he got big bore(103")heads cams exhaust etc., after the dynotune and after the mechanic took it for the shakedown run he handed it off to the owner. He took his bike out for a run and that dude came back sheet white. First words out of his mouth, "What can I do to get better brakes, this thing sucks" We all laughed as we saw the single brake and the 21" and wondered what the difference was, as it did look better. I think if a guy cruises and rides like he knows he removed some braking power he should be fine. But if you think its the same as 2 rotors and 8 pistons with a wider tire, you are mistaken.
#20
I have a stock 96" on my SG and plan on keeping it that way ... well, perhaps new cams in the not too distant future lol
All I what is a new wheel that is not covered by ugly *** rotors on both sides. I am not aggressive riding my SG.. dirt bikes yes!
Harleypingman can the Brembo can retro fitted to a '07 fairly easily? I have seen some nice wheels/rotors from Wannryd that would look good on my SG
All I what is a new wheel that is not covered by ugly *** rotors on both sides. I am not aggressive riding my SG.. dirt bikes yes!
Harleypingman can the Brembo can retro fitted to a '07 fairly easily? I have seen some nice wheels/rotors from Wannryd that would look good on my SG