While i'm pretty new to Harley's in general i'm not new to the mechanical and aftermarket world for motorcycles fourwheerlers and other toys.

I picked up the Vance and Hines High Output slip on the other day and now i've decided to gut my cat out, which i'll probably do this weekend. The question is, I felt a little loss when I put the slip on - on it seems. Now I know buy gutting the cat i'll be getting closer to needing a fuelpak or a PC-V but would I have been better to go with another pipe instead? It seems everything I read about the V&H is that it's for either highly modded motors or much larger motors. Harley dealer has a 2010 (single out) 4" Rinehart slip-on for $280 that i'm thinking bout picking up and trading out the V&H for. Would that benefit me? Am I splitting hairs?


***UPDATE*** (Page 2)
Picked up a single out rinehart and going to gut the cat this weekend! 12-18-2012 - V&H High Output Slip On with 20 miles on it - FOR SALE!

 

The Vance and Hines High Output slip on is made for highly modded motors. It is very open (low back pressure on fairly stock motors) and is very loud from what I've read.
So you probably did loose some low end torque.

The 4" Rinehart slip-on was made to compete with the Vance & Hines Monster series mufflers.
They are not very loud, but has a deeper low rumble.

If you want some noise you'll need the 3 1/2" Rinehearts or the regular Vance & Hines.

 

Excellent post! I dont think my V&H is very loud though - hence why I'm losing the cat to get some more sound out of it. I'm thinking I probably would be better off with a different muffler though now.

How is it that the smaller Rinhart is louder?

 

FYI -- I am running a gutted 2010 header and V&H Hi-Output on my 04 88" with screamin eagle air cleaner and PCIII. For what it's worth, I haven't noticed any loss and it isn't loud at all -- nice low growl...

I'm saving up for some engine mods now and I'm sure it will be even better then...

my .02 -- DD

 

I had the Hi Ouputs and dresser duals on my old bike. It ran like ****,but it sure did sound great.

 

It might be your programmer that's helping you out there, those are basically the exact mods I want.

Yeah... it's still too quiet for me.

 

Your pipes aren't loud because the cat limits the db output, which is one of the reasons there is a cat in the pipe. Of course they are quiet

 

Well i'm gutting the cat this week with the V&H still so well see what happens after that.

 

Yeah... it's still too quiet for me.[/QUOTE]



You get rid of the CAT,and put some duals on it will be.

 

You get rid of the CAT,and put some duals on it will be.[/QUOTE]

That's another thing. I found a local guy with a 2012 head pipe that wants $50 for it and the shields which i could convert to duals but everyone says i'll lose power doing that too.