true, but...none of them seem to be dramatic enough to cause this...

again, true...still very much leanin toward the swingarm pivot "doughnuts" or even internals but hopefully not.


Don't have the tools to mount tires myself yet, so they're done at a local indy at $20 a pop. Can't afford to go back and forth like that gotta eliminate other stuff first. I trust the mount and balance job. They're solid at that place.

Just got done pulling everything back apart and reinstalling very carefully according to manual and axle install instructions (flush mount axle)

a brand that I'd hear opinions about if I mentioned it. no need to sidetrack anyone heh.

Gotta say I am jealous that I didn't make up that word, but I'll try pressure variations. Danke.

There's no rear stabilizer at all on the touring bikes? With your research did you determine that a "strap" (sorry, just gets the point across) upgrade is a better route to take than the spherical bearing retrofit and / or something like a stiffey or sta-bo bushings?

Does it? Thought 10W was heavier than stock, but...truth is I actually put 20W in there! Typo. Sorry. I'm 225 pounds...20W might be on the stiff side, but I like bikes with a little more feel than cush.

 

20w fork oil is way too much. If you've taken that much compliance out of the front end, that's probably part of your problem.

 

10W is way too little, 20W is way too much?

I'll keep that in mind...still gonna focus on the swingarm region but keep all this stuff on the table.

 

http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index....c,42053.0.html

A little food for thought?

 

I've actually heard of big issues being attributed to the oil level not being exactly the same in both tubes.

~Joe

 

If you were not in a high speed sweeper when the wobble started id check the "fall Away" first. By firming up the suspension you make the steering a little tighter and if your "Fall Away" is not correct youll get a wobble. If its OK check the tire and balance. I dont think its related to the "frame flex" that our rubber mounted bikes have since yoiu are in a straight away and not stressing the flex in the frame

 

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...ew-friend.html
I found this to be my problem right after new mounted tires from an indy.

Also, I agree with XARAN. It's not very likely that its your swing arm bushings, not impossible just unlikely. That kind of wobble usually happens in high speed sweeping turns at 70mph+ putting lateral pressures on those bushings from flexing in the older frames, tracking etc...

The fork oil must be an exact measurement as stated earlier.

But my focus would be on the wheels! If it's not improper psi, than I bet it's a bad tire (happens) or balance is off. Good luck!

 

Interestingly enough, one record from PO I do have is a front fork rebuild including replacing all seals and funny enough the parts mentioned in your link! Good call tho! I'll still keep that in mind, too! Could be faulty.

It's the same. I was very, very careful when I drained them then refilled them. Same with rear shocks. I'm pretty "****" about stuff...

Neck bearing tension is exactly where it was before the work I did. Checked and double checked. Just a hair on the firm side which is how I prefer. Not tight just at the firm end of acceptable.

What would cause a wobble more too tight or too loose?

I should clarify that the wobble only happened when goin over a road feature made my bars twitch, and then I could repeat it by twitchin 'em myself.

I didn't realize that the dreaded bagger wobble was "frame flex."

And JIM I will check and re-check tire pressure and will take the bike to the indy that mounted the tires and have them check their work.

Thing is...the..."epicenter"...for lack of a better term isn't in the bars! When I force the behavior to show, the bars aren't really a concern. No tank slappin risk, that sort of thing. It literally feels like the center of the bike ends up jointed or rubberized.

Pretty weird!

Thanks guys! Appreciate all the responses!

 

I just replaced the rear swing arm bushings, and it made a giant difference, they were never changed, and they were worn out.
As for rear shock oil, I used 7wt, in the rears.

 

I have had the infamous 'biker wobble', and it was not as pronounced as what you describe. You can feel it, but it is not a constant shimmy. Can't speak to your hypothesis, but it's possible I suppose.

Wouldn't think it would have that extreme of an effect though. I eliminated my wobble by installing the touring link from Progressive Suspension, but again, yours sounds (to me anyway) like there's something else going on.