Stopped for a helmet check......
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10-09-2011, 08:55 AM
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10-09-2011, 08:59 AM
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Agreed, but then he notices you don't have stock, EPA approved mufflers and now you have a $500 problem (in Denver anyway).
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10-09-2011, 09:12 AM
Government mandated helmet laws are no different than a law that would require ditatary restrictions, mandated exercise programs, mandated safe sex pratices etc. Protecting the population from a DUI, burglar, etc. is a valid function of gov't. Protecting one from themselves is not a function of gov't. and what I do with my personal life is none of the gov'ts. business if I am not harming others by my actions or lack of actions.
Presently the obesity epidemic in this country is a far greater threat than all the bikers in the country that are not wearing helmets, so step away from the burger bi!ch.
And don't start the public burden arguement that I saw above. Tell me how busting my head is more of a burden than someone having a heart attack or stoking out because of diet or exercise issues, smoking, etc. How would you like to get pulled over for that Big Mac? Or better yet, let's just shut down all the places that feed us stuff that is not good for us.
Stopping to check for a DOT helmet is not harrassment because that is the law of the state. What is harrassment is the fact that the law exists to begin with.
Wear a helmet if you want, don't wear one if you don't, but don't mandate what I can do with my life.
Bill
Presently the obesity epidemic in this country is a far greater threat than all the bikers in the country that are not wearing helmets, so step away from the burger bi!ch.
And don't start the public burden arguement that I saw above. Tell me how busting my head is more of a burden than someone having a heart attack or stoking out because of diet or exercise issues, smoking, etc. How would you like to get pulled over for that Big Mac? Or better yet, let's just shut down all the places that feed us stuff that is not good for us.
Stopping to check for a DOT helmet is not harrassment because that is the law of the state. What is harrassment is the fact that the law exists to begin with.
Wear a helmet if you want, don't wear one if you don't, but don't mandate what I can do with my life.
Bill
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10-09-2011, 09:14 AM
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I see a HUGE difference!
DUI check protects the population that the DUI offender might harm.
But helmet checks to protect me from myself??? How about pulling me over because I'm overweight? Or because I smoke?
I wear a helmet in NC because I want to, (though the state tells me I have to also.)
It has no business doing so IMO.
DUI check protects the population that the DUI offender might harm.
But helmet checks to protect me from myself??? How about pulling me over because I'm overweight? Or because I smoke?
I wear a helmet in NC because I want to, (though the state tells me I have to also.)
It has no business doing so IMO.
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10-09-2011, 09:16 AM
Riding south on I-405 Saturday afternoon near Bellevue, WA.
Pulled over for helmet check.
Was riding with my German style helmet.
That's a DOT approved German style helmet!!
Quick check, shook hands and on my way.
Beware in Washington state is all I can say if you ride with a novelty helmet!
Pulled over for helmet check.
Was riding with my German style helmet.
That's a DOT approved German style helmet!!
Quick check, shook hands and on my way.
Beware in Washington state is all I can say if you ride with a novelty helmet!
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10-09-2011, 09:17 AM
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10-09-2011, 09:21 AM
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Your helmet doesn't protect just your head. It protects the well being of your family as well. And nobody think of the cost to society if someone crashes. Medical care, money you don't bring home to support your family, the cost of the emergency response team and so on. At least that's how I see it. If a cop pulls me over to check my helmet, no problem, I'll be on my way shortly because my lid is DOT approved. I don't see any kind of harassement there.
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10-09-2011, 09:22 AM
Courts said random DUI stops were OK, and now we have random safety checks. According to the courts (so far) it is considered legal. But as I understand it there is a case having to do with motorcycle safety check points in the court system right now. We will see where it goes.
It amazes me how easily some folks are willing to give up their liberties.