Cat Headers are so bad?
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I think the cat in the headers are a big part of the heat and they are also restrictive. I think I read it on this forum somewhere. "It plugs up the pipe like a tampon for an elephant". If you do a package like FullSac and others advertise, you get a pretty good price that fixes all of the issues at once.
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On a bike with mild bolt-ons, it reduces sound slightly and does generate extra heat. A tune can lower the cat temp without removal. Cutting out the cat from the stock head pipe is worth nothing for peak power, but swapping to an x-pipe like what you can get from Fullsac, Fuel Moto, or Vance & Hines will improve power slightly. It isn't that significant, though.
On a bike with mild bolt-ons, it reduces sound slightly and does generate extra heat. A tune can lower the cat temp without removal. Cutting out the cat from the stock head pipe is worth nothing for peak power, but swapping to an x-pipe like what you can get from Fullsac, Fuel Moto, or Vance & Hines will improve power slightly. It isn't that significant, though.
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The HD cats are exceptionally free flowing. Not like car cats made with thick honeycombed ceramic material. They are very thin coated corrugated metal that take up less than 10% of the container volume.
You will not notice the difference. Removing them will eliminate the very high temp that they function with. That is reason enough to remove them. Unless you love gold and blue pipes and mufflers.
You will not notice the difference. Removing them will eliminate the very high temp that they function with. That is reason enough to remove them. Unless you love gold and blue pipes and mufflers.
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There are threads about this approximately every 3 days.
On a bike with mild bolt-ons, it reduces sound slightly and does generate extra heat. A tune can lower the cat temp without removal. Cutting out the cat from the stock head pipe is worth nothing for peak power, but swapping to an x-pipe like what you can get from Fullsac, Fuel Moto, or Vance & Hines will improve power slightly. It isn't that significant, though.
On a bike with mild bolt-ons, it reduces sound slightly and does generate extra heat. A tune can lower the cat temp without removal. Cutting out the cat from the stock head pipe is worth nothing for peak power, but swapping to an x-pipe like what you can get from Fullsac, Fuel Moto, or Vance & Hines will improve power slightly. It isn't that significant, though.
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The HD cats are exceptionally free flowing. Not like car cats made with thick honeycombed ceramic material. They are very thin coated corrugated metal that take up less than 10% of the container volume.
You will not notice the difference. Removing them will eliminate the very high temp that they function with. That is reason enough to remove them. Unless you love gold and blue pipes and mufflers.
You will not notice the difference. Removing them will eliminate the very high temp that they function with. That is reason enough to remove them. Unless you love gold and blue pipes and mufflers.
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With the CAT removed they let the exhaust flow less restrictive & the sound difference is significantly better at least with aftermarket slip ons. I'm running the V&H Hi Flows & so is my brother & my 08 with NO-CAT is significantly louder than my brothers RG with the same mufflers. That alone tells me it is restrictive....