Importing Harley into Canada
#31
I've been here for almost 14 years. Is this country hitting a rough patch and does comrade supreme leader want to turn it into a utopia socialist society like Canada, Sweden etc...yes.
However, unlike Canada there are to many people here who lobby against the BS and the politicians have to listen. (Again, unlike Canadian politics.)
I love Canada, and it will always be my home....but I'm never moving back.
#33
Back in 2006/2007,there was a dealer (private), who was buying (new) from the states and bringing them in to Canada. He was under cutting the Deeley network by 2 to $3000. It was quite the war.
The buyers would buy them and were getting a pretty good deal until they went in for their first service or warranty work. As soon as the dealer found out where they were bought from, warranty work was denied. They even refused to service them. They were told to take them back where they bought them from.
Well there were complaints to MOCO and rightly so. Even if I bought a 1 month old bike with 10 miles on it, MOCO would honor the factory warranty, but not these. MOCO stepped in and told Deeley that they had to honor the warranty. Well they did ....sort of.
Any of these imported bikes that came in and sold by this dealer that was skirting the Deeley network were put at the end of the line for anything. You need your 1500k warranty service and it's May...... good luck getting your bike in before October or November. By then your way past your service mileage to keep your warranty intact, and it gone. That or the bike sat until they had nothing else to do. That could be a while. Between the 2 dealerships here, they sell 1400 new HD's per year.
So in a way they complied with MOCO, but Deeley and the dealerships would set the time line of when they felt like working on these blacklisted bikes.
I actually went into this private dealer as they were the authorized rep for "Got Saggy Bags" where I live. It wasn't some small time endeavor. They had about 70 new bikes there at the time. They had quite the little operation going on, but it only lasted a year or 2 before they shut it down. Word got out and no one wants to spend 20 to 25k on a bike no real warranty or service.
Not saying it's right, but that's what happened where I am. If warranty is important to you, your going to be stuck paying the Deeley tax first.
The buyers would buy them and were getting a pretty good deal until they went in for their first service or warranty work. As soon as the dealer found out where they were bought from, warranty work was denied. They even refused to service them. They were told to take them back where they bought them from.
Well there were complaints to MOCO and rightly so. Even if I bought a 1 month old bike with 10 miles on it, MOCO would honor the factory warranty, but not these. MOCO stepped in and told Deeley that they had to honor the warranty. Well they did ....sort of.
Any of these imported bikes that came in and sold by this dealer that was skirting the Deeley network were put at the end of the line for anything. You need your 1500k warranty service and it's May...... good luck getting your bike in before October or November. By then your way past your service mileage to keep your warranty intact, and it gone. That or the bike sat until they had nothing else to do. That could be a while. Between the 2 dealerships here, they sell 1400 new HD's per year.
So in a way they complied with MOCO, but Deeley and the dealerships would set the time line of when they felt like working on these blacklisted bikes.
I actually went into this private dealer as they were the authorized rep for "Got Saggy Bags" where I live. It wasn't some small time endeavor. They had about 70 new bikes there at the time. They had quite the little operation going on, but it only lasted a year or 2 before they shut it down. Word got out and no one wants to spend 20 to 25k on a bike no real warranty or service.
Not saying it's right, but that's what happened where I am. If warranty is important to you, your going to be stuck paying the Deeley tax first.
Last edited by heywood727; 08-07-2011 at 04:09 PM. Reason: spelling
#34
Glad to see at least some folks are smart about the Canadian HD Ripoff. ALL HARLEY DAVIDSON Motorcycles are sold to one Importer Trev Deeley Imports, so when you buy a bike from a dealer in Canada, you are effectively the 3rd owner on paper. The MOCO only has one Dealer, Deeley they negotiate sales with, so that makes things easy for them, and Deeley makes coin on every bike that enters the country. Americans have a something in a Free Enterprise Market called "Competition" where as whoever has the best product/price succeeds, and the market dictates who is successful, in Canada it is called Monopoly and thus prices are at the discretion of the Monopoly holder, and any inflated prices increase TAX Revenues for Gov't so protection all around for this type of market practice. First bike bought in Canada and imported to Germany (a Deeley bike), second , the wifes bike bought in USA while serving there, and next bought in USA, and shipped overseas, still serving, so have seen this process up close and personal, and it is shameful of MOCO to continue with this business practice of sole import rights.
#35
I learned a long time ago that LOTS of the accessories or parts I need are cheaper stateside. It's not just dealer supplied parts either. I would buy my tires from a local indy. Back tire cost was close to $200 alone. Instl'n extra. I bought a new front and rear tire for a total of $200 delivered to a parcel service south of the border and put them on myself.
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#38
After I hit reply a US news story back just a couple years ago in Colorado. Seems Canadian Ski-Doo manufacturer Bombardier, based in Quebec, Canada, threatened US border city dealerships across the midwest and west coast with loss of franchise and dealership rights for the product line of they continued to sell US models to Cdns shopping south of the border for cheaper deals (recall the markup was a couple thousand). This from a company who receives gov't manufacturing grants and TAX rebates in Canada, but demonstrates the tight control of retail giants in Canada and their desire to eliminate US priced products north of the border. Sears Riding Lawnmower $1,500,00 more in Canada ..same stock number ...Unreal ..retailers putting to the Cdn Consumers becasue they can. And only when the dollar hits parity do the Cdn public wake up and the retailers still don't budge ..and don't even get me started ion publishing companies and price of books and magazines ..LOL..Yeah OK ..need to chill but ..Just saying ...
#39
Its not prtectionism it's simple economics, supply and demand. Canadian demand doesn't justify the same pricing as in the US, there is no where near the volume in Canada. Don't get me wrong I hate the prices we pay in Canada too but until we are the 50 whatever state we will never pay what they do no matter what the exchange rate is.
#40
Supply and demand? Wouldn't you think that under NAFTA, the demand would stretch from CAN, USA and Mexico? That leaves only currency exchange. The laws of supply and demand apply to resources, not manufactured goods.
Canada has an over-abundance of softwood lumber, and the majority of all softwood lumber in the US in cut, sawed and cured in Canada. However, we still pay more for it as it comes out of our backyards.
Canada has an over-abundance of softwood lumber, and the majority of all softwood lumber in the US in cut, sawed and cured in Canada. However, we still pay more for it as it comes out of our backyards.