PCV's ruining the ECM's? Whats wrong with my bike?
#21
I just returned a PCV to Jamie for the same problem, went to limp mode on two bikes that I tried it on, it is over a year old and Jamie will fix it, hard to beat that. In the meanwhile I use the FLXIEDs from nightrider till the PCV comes back from Jamie. Over the years I have sent a few back with Problems and Jamie has fixed these. I would buy another one for sure, all electrical products can have problems and Jamie gives a two year warrinty with his sales. Doc
#22
I have a 2007 Road King Classic with a PCV. A few weeks ago my rear cylinder quit firing. Threw codes for rear cylinder no combustion and rear cylinder coil / open/ shorted. I replaced the coil, same problem, I disconnected the PCV and ran the bike without it, same problem. I reconnected the PCV, same problem. But low and behold a few minutes later I started the bike again and it ran perfectly. Went for a short ride about 20 miles, the bike ran perfectly.
I am now at a loss of what the real problem was and if it is actually fixed or not ? I take long rides in the middle of nowhere and now have no confidence that the bike is reliable. Could it have simply been a bad connection at the PCV ? Will that throw these type of codes ?
I am now at a loss of what the real problem was and if it is actually fixed or not ? I take long rides in the middle of nowhere and now have no confidence that the bike is reliable. Could it have simply been a bad connection at the PCV ? Will that throw these type of codes ?
#23
No it doesn't. The M-M Act covers replacement parts and maintenance items, and in broad terms means that your warranty can't be voided if you use an aftermarket part. Your dealer can (and should) refuse to cover something that you screwed up. Your dealer can (and should) refuse to cover your blown engine if you've changed cams. Your dealer can't refuse to cover your stereo if you've changed cams, nor can he refuse to cover your blown engine if you're using Amsoil.
#24
Your warranty is void if you once hit the rev limiter. I call BS on the tech stating this he's a tech nothing more, he doesn't design the workings of the ECM and for all I know he probably has to look at the Manual to change oil.
The PCV is down stream from the ECM do if it starts to wig out it's bad period.
9500 miles on mine, no issues.
The PCV is down stream from the ECM do if it starts to wig out it's bad period.
9500 miles on mine, no issues.
#25
#26
Add me to the list of no issues.
Had a PC III on my last bike 26,000 miles and no issues. And 20,000 on my PCV from Fuel Moto this time, and I ride in all weather conditions. I do remove my PCV if I ever need to bring it in to the dealer, since I also have the stage one flash.
I think your dealer is just trying to scare you, they haven't tried to get you to buy a screaming eagle tuner yet have they?
Had a PC III on my last bike 26,000 miles and no issues. And 20,000 on my PCV from Fuel Moto this time, and I ride in all weather conditions. I do remove my PCV if I ever need to bring it in to the dealer, since I also have the stage one flash.
I think your dealer is just trying to scare you, they haven't tried to get you to buy a screaming eagle tuner yet have they?
#27
Having gone through an Bad ECM and getting it changed through the Harley Dealer - and them not installing the right map - and it running like crud - and finally getting a PowerVision from FM - and seeing the wrong map in my ECM -going back to dealer - to HD- Yada -Yada - Yada.....
HD blames dealer
dealer blames HD
HD blames Powervision
dealer blames Powervision
They all act like it's some secret inner control...
Arm yourself with knowledge about how your harley and components work...and find a knowledgeable indy to purchase and get support from....like Fuelmoto.
HD blames dealer
dealer blames HD
HD blames Powervision
dealer blames Powervision
They all act like it's some secret inner control...
Arm yourself with knowledge about how your harley and components work...and find a knowledgeable indy to purchase and get support from....like Fuelmoto.
#28
No it doesn't. The M-M Act covers replacement parts and maintenance items, and in broad terms means that your warranty can't be voided if you use an aftermarket part. Your dealer can (and should) refuse to cover something that you screwed up. Your dealer can (and should) refuse to cover your blown engine if you've changed cams.
My understanding is that if you add an accessory the dealer can't blame it for a warrantable problem if there's no evidence that it contributed in any way. If a PCV is added they can't deny your warranty simply because the ECM goes on the blitz, making up a story that the PCV caused the problem, or cancel the warranty across-the-board if one is connected. Is this not correct?
Last edited by iclick; 08-05-2011 at 09:09 AM.
#29
But not unless the cams were shown to contribute to the problem. If, for example, a crankshaft bearing fails a few months after installing a set of cams that obviously isn't a factor in the warrantable issue.
My understanding is that if you add an accessory the dealer can't blame it for a warrantable problem if there's no evidence that it contributed in any way. If a PCV is added they can't deny your warranty simply because the ECM goes on the blitz, making up a story that the PCV caused the problem, or cancel the warranty across-the-board if one is connected. Is this not correct?
My understanding is that if you add an accessory the dealer can't blame it for a warrantable problem if there's no evidence that it contributed in any way. If a PCV is added they can't deny your warranty simply because the ECM goes on the blitz, making up a story that the PCV caused the problem, or cancel the warranty across-the-board if one is connected. Is this not correct?
#30
Here's the section of the U.S. Code that encompasses the M-A Act. It exists primarily to prevent dealers or manufacturers from requiring only their maintenance products to be used, or having their people do all maintenance.