Harley pricing
#21
07-08-2011, 12:14 PM
Ultimate HDF Member
Emerald City Harley in Seattle and Orlando Harley at Disney same way. They only sell Harley merchandise, no bikes, no parts.
#22
07-08-2011, 12:28 PM
I'd just as soon not pay high prices anywhere.
But the reality is that there are people, fellow citizens, working at the dealerships. They all want to earn enough to have a certain standard of living, as we all do.
If we all want to earn as much as possible, while paying as little as possible... well, that's a recipe for outsourcing every job that can be outsourced.
I'm OK with paying more if it means that my friends and neighbors are employed.
But the reality is that there are people, fellow citizens, working at the dealerships. They all want to earn enough to have a certain standard of living, as we all do.
If we all want to earn as much as possible, while paying as little as possible... well, that's a recipe for outsourcing every job that can be outsourced.
I'm OK with paying more if it means that my friends and neighbors are employed.
So who is really getting the bulk of the "work " and employment.
I know it is very hard, if not damn near impossible to "buy-american" anymore.
I dont mind paying for something at a higher cost if I know for sure the $$$ and higher prices are going to American jobs and taxes and profit...but I dont get it...
I just sometimes feel like I am being gouged or swindled whenever I walk through the door at the dealer and drop $100 on a cap and a couple of T-shirts that cost a pittance to produce compared to what they are selling the stuff for...and it aint even made in the US.
#23
07-08-2011, 12:39 PM
....lets not forget that the majority of the clothes, accessories, trinkets/parts are made in China.
I just sometimes feel like I am being gouged or swindled whenever I walk through the door at the dealer and drop $100 on a cap and a couple of T-shirts that cost a pittance to produce compared to what they are selling the stuff for...and it aint even made in the US.
I just sometimes feel like I am being gouged or swindled whenever I walk through the door at the dealer and drop $100 on a cap and a couple of T-shirts that cost a pittance to produce compared to what they are selling the stuff for...and it aint even made in the US.
#24
07-08-2011, 01:17 PM
Yeah, but who wants a Harley T-shirt with the Wal-Mart logo on the back?
#25
07-08-2011, 01:20 PM
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07-08-2011, 01:34 PM
#27
07-08-2011, 01:38 PM
Elite HDF Member
Good news is used bike prices will increase proportionally.
#28
07-08-2011, 01:58 PM
That's a good point but if the economy continues to decline there will be fewer used as well as new scoots sold.
Worldwide retail unit sales of new Harley-Davidson motorcycles for 2009 were down 30.1 percent compared to the year-ago quarter. Retail new Harley-Davidson motorcycle sales in the U.S. were down 35.1 percent for the same period.
Harley-Davidson expects to ship between 221,000 & 228,000 motorcycles worldwide in 2011, which is up 8% over last year’s figure, but still pales in comparison to the numbers the Milwaukee brand was posting before the economic collapse (303,479 in 2008). Since 2006, sales at Harley-Davdison have continued to slide, but the most dramatic affect was in 2010, where sales were down 30% compared to before the recession (over 36% in the domestic market).
Worldwide retail unit sales of new Harley-Davidson motorcycles for 2009 were down 30.1 percent compared to the year-ago quarter. Retail new Harley-Davidson motorcycle sales in the U.S. were down 35.1 percent for the same period.
Harley-Davidson expects to ship between 221,000 & 228,000 motorcycles worldwide in 2011, which is up 8% over last year’s figure, but still pales in comparison to the numbers the Milwaukee brand was posting before the economic collapse (303,479 in 2008). Since 2006, sales at Harley-Davdison have continued to slide, but the most dramatic affect was in 2010, where sales were down 30% compared to before the recession (over 36% in the domestic market).
Last edited by shortride; 07-08-2011 at 02:08 PM.
#29
07-08-2011, 02:38 PM
I'm not seeing that same picture in the slides from HD's first quarter update in April. Maybe I'm missing something...
Here is a link to a PDF of the slides:
http://*******.com/62fex84
Here is a link to a PDF of the slides:
http://*******.com/62fex84
#30
07-08-2011, 02:56 PM
Elite HDF Member
That's a good point but if the economy continues to decline there will be fewer used as well as new scoots sold.
Worldwide retail unit sales of new Harley-Davidson motorcycles for 2009 were down 30.1 percent compared to the year-ago quarter. Retail new Harley-Davidson motorcycle sales in the U.S. were down 35.1 percent for the same period.
Harley-Davidson expects to ship between 221,000 & 228,000 motorcycles worldwide in 2011, which is up 8% over last year’s figure, but still pales in comparison to the numbers the Milwaukee brand was posting before the economic collapse (303,479 in 2008). Since 2006, sales at Harley-Davdison have continued to slide, but the most dramatic affect was in 2010, where sales were down 30% compared to before the recession (over 36% in the domestic market).
Worldwide retail unit sales of new Harley-Davidson motorcycles for 2009 were down 30.1 percent compared to the year-ago quarter. Retail new Harley-Davidson motorcycle sales in the U.S. were down 35.1 percent for the same period.
Harley-Davidson expects to ship between 221,000 & 228,000 motorcycles worldwide in 2011, which is up 8% over last year’s figure, but still pales in comparison to the numbers the Milwaukee brand was posting before the economic collapse (303,479 in 2008). Since 2006, sales at Harley-Davdison have continued to slide, but the most dramatic affect was in 2010, where sales were down 30% compared to before the recession (over 36% in the domestic market).
And I'm being very generous here cause Polaris On-Road Division includes also 4 wheelers, not only Victory bikes, and the total Revenue is also comprised of parts, accessories and apparel. Even if I consider that 100% of their revenue is made of new bikes sales, it doesn't represent more than 6,000 new bikes. Compared to HD's 220,000 new bikes shipped last year, they're a pimple on an elephant's @ss.