No rear brake light. Probably the switch...

 

There's a recall on rear brake switches...take it to the dealer and like them install and bleed the brakes. This is done free no charge to you.

 

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I typed my VIN into the HD website and it said there were no open recalls regarding my bike.


My bike was produced in October 2011 and the recall covers bikes built between 2008 and September 2011. Missed it by a month.


Going to go the local auto parts store route now that I know Harley will not fix it for me. Which I was only going to do out of principle.


Can someone tell me what the difference is between the -51 C/D/E?


thanks.

 

So I know this is an old thread, but I am taking a wild guess here, with me changing the rear brake line to a stainless steel cable, the rear brake light will not come on until I fill and bleed the rear brake line correct?

 

Correct, the rear brake light switch is pressure activated.

 

Yep ... and be careful with the brake fluid, it can/will make a mess out of any paint.

 

Ok, that's what I was kinda figuring since it would not work. Thank you gentlemen, just wanted reassurance that my mind was on straight. Uncle Larry, I know, I did the front line two years ago, I'm very careful with brake fluid, too much $$$ spend to ruin something due to carelessness. ;P

 

The rear brake switch is a recall item for several 2010-ish and maybe some early 2011 models, just can't remember. Maybe Dawg still has that service bulletin.

The problem was the switches proximity to that damn super hot catalytic converter. Its not the engine heat that causes the problem for this switch. The cat gets super hot in order to burn-off the hydrocarbons that our bike motors spit out all the time. The heat from that cat is the problem. You get rid of the cat, you get rid of the risk of damaging the switch, it's that simple.

I bought a rear switch from HD and just kept it in my parts bin for about 3.5 years at which time my original switch finally failed on my 2010. I changed it in the garage myself with no air introduced in the system. Very easy to do if you pay attention to what you are doing.

During some of the early messy-*** recall work performed in some HD shops, lots of guys were picking their bikes up from a dealer install and the rear pedal felt spongy and soft on the way home...obviously indicative of air in the system somewhere. They would end-up taking the bike back to the dealer and the dealer would many times confess that they had not bled the brakes....which is a clearly outlined requirement in the service bulletin yet skipped to save shop time. (they would still charge HD for the full treatment, whether they bled or not)

It is my understanding that the Digi Tech is used simply to activate the internals of the ABS module in an effort to dislodge air bubbles "just in case" there might be air trapped somewhere in the passages of that module. You have to remember that HD subject to a wide array of liability for their service work so they are always going to go overboard when recommending that this or that be "performed" by the dealer...but as we have seen some dealers put their business before the concerns of HD corporate by taking shortcuts.

Brakes should be bled every two years. Brake fluid is hygroscopic and over time will lose it's effectiveness because of moisture intrusion. It's perfectly fine to bleed an ABS hd bike easily and effectively by yourself. You will not need the digi tech because if you don't screw up and introduce air into the system, then no air will be in the system as you push the old fluid out and the new fluid in.

There was a lot of back and forth on this a few years ago. Do a search and you will find what I am talking about.

 

2009-2012 TOURING MODEL REAR STOP LIGHT SWITCH SAFETY RECALL CAMPAIGN
0145
Purpose
Harley-Davidson has determined that a condition affecting
motor vehicle safety exists on certain Touring Models. The affected
model motorcycles may experience a non-functioning
stop light and/or cause a brake fluid leak through the rear stop
light switch affecting rear brake performance. This could result
in a crash, which could cause injury or death to the rider.
In the interest of motor vehicle safety and customer satisfaction,
Harley-Davidson has elected to initiate a voluntary safety recall
(Campaign 0145) to remedy this defect. As required by law
you may sell but NOT DELIVER any affected motorcycles to
your customers until the safety recall is performed.
Please read this entire bulletin before taking any action or ordering
any kits. See Required Dealer Action to perform the
safety recall service.
Motorcycles Affected
All 2009-2011 and certain 2012 Touring model motorcycles,
including CVO Touring and Tri-Glide motorcycles built through
September 16, 2011 are affected. A VIN list specific to vehicles
shipped to your dealership is available via h-dnet.com. This
list may be found by following this path:
• h-dnet.com/Service Toolbox/Warranty Campaign Center.
Select “Safety Campaign Open VIN List”. Then select 0145
campaign to view VIN list.
NOTE
If the vehicle does not appear on your dealer VIN list, refer to
Safety and Product Campaign History by VIN link to verify if
vehicle is affected.
Markets Affected
This bulletin affects all markets.
Customer Notification
In accordance with Federal regulations administrated by
NHTSA, Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc. will send a
letter to registered owners of affected products in the United
States notifying them of this safety-related condition and instructing
them to contact their dealer for inspection and service.
A sample of the customer letter is attached. Customers outside
the United States may receive this notification through other
means.
To protect the safety of our riders, it is our mutual responsibility
to ensure the safety recall service is performed on all affected
motorcycles. Therefore, we strongly urge you to perform the
safety recall service even if the motorcycle was not purchased
from your dealership. You are also required to perform the
safety recall service on all affected models in your dealership
inventory prior to delivering, renting or leasing those models.
If you are not sure that a safety recall has been completed on
a particular motorcycle, check the safety recall records available
on TALON and h-dnet.com.
NOTE
Because only registered owners will receive notification from
us, we request that you contact any owners of affected motorcycles
still listed as unregistered. Advise them of the safety
recall and make arrangements for them to come in for the
safety recall service. We also require that you provide us with
their names, addresses and VINs as soon as possible to enable
us to mail them an owner’s letter, as required by National Traffic
and Motor Vehicle Safety Act (as amended).
Ordering Information: U.S. Market
An initial wave shipment of kit 91500011 will begin the week
of October 24, 2011. All kits will be shipped no charge, transportation
paid via UPS1.
If additional kits are needed after wave shipments have been
terminated, fill out an order form and fax it to the Warranty department
at 414-343-8346. Order forms will be provided after
wave shipments have been terminated. You must include your
dealer number. Wave shipments will continue until we have
appropriate kit quantities in the field to begin accepting dealer
orders. We will communicate when wave shipments are terminated.
©2011 H-D
NOTE
In the interest of preserving customer safety and satisfaction, always check for outstanding recalls whenever any motorcycle is brought into your
dealership for either maintenance or service.
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Figure 1. Rear Stop Light Switch Identification: Sharp
Edges Are Gone On New Switch
Table 1. Kit Part No. 91500011 Contents
ITEM PART NO. QTY
Rear stop light switch *72016-06A 1
*non-sold part number
Ordering Information: Non-U.S. Market
Contact your local Harley-Davidson service area representative
for authorization, ordering and return instructions.
Required Dealer Action
Any time the ABS module, either master cylinder, or any
line between a master cylinder and the ABS module is
disconnected or replaced, Digital Technician II must be
used during the brake bleeding procedure to verify all air
is removed from the system. Failure to do so could result
in air in the hydraulic brake system, reducing brake efficiency,
which could result in death or serious injury.
(00585b)
NOTES
• Digital Technician II (Part No. HD-48650/Version
5.002.0000) implemented a change to the ABS Service
Procedure which will allow you to perform this function on
the front or rear system individually. Verify Digital Technician
II has Version 5.002.0000 installed.
• Part number 72023-51D can and may be used in applications
other than 2009 and later Touring and Tri-Glide
family motorcycles.
1. Confirm motorcycle is involved and program is "open".
2. See the service manual for the latest procedure and specification.
Upon completion of the safety recall on any vehicle, please be
certain to follow the instructions listed under the appropriate
Credit Procedure and submit your safety recall claims promptly.
Credit Procedure:
Talon/h-dnet.com/Lightspeed Warranty
Claim Users (Non-ABS Systems)
For each Non-ABS model serviced, complete an electronic
warranty claim referencing this service bulletin number. Fill in
the rest of the claim as follows: Refer to Table 2.
Table 2. Safety Recall Code 0145: Non-ABS
ITEM DATA
Claim Type SRC
Event Problem Part Number 72023-51D
Quantity Leave Blank
Primary Labor Code* 5121
Time 0.2 hours
Customer Concern Code* 0145
Condition Code 9981
Replacement Part No. 91500011
Quantity 1
* These items may need to be downloaded to your system.
Credit Procedure:
Talon/h-dnet.com/Lightspeed Warranty
Claim Users (ABS Systems)
For each ABS model serviced, complete an electronic warranty
claim referencing this service bulletin number. For each vehicle
serviced, fill in the rest of the claim as follows: Refer to Table
3.
Table 3. Safety Recall Code 0145: ABS
ITEM DATA
Claim Type SRC
Problem Part Number 72023-51D
Quantity Leave Blank
Primary Labor Code* 5123
Time 0.4 hours
Customer Concern Code* 0145
Condition Code 9982
Replacement Part No. 91500011
Quantity 1
* These items may need to be downloaded to your system.
Upon receipt of the properly completed claim, you will be
credited for labor time for performing the safety recall procedure
plus appropriate market administrative time. The safety recall
record will be updated by HDMC. Each vehicle safety recall
completion must be filed on an individual claim. Please do not
submit additional events on these claims.
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Credit Procedure: H-D SAP Dealers
Complete an electronic campaign claim referencing this service
bulletin number. For each vehicle serviced, fill in the rest of the
claim as follows: Refer to Table 4.
Table 4. Safety Recall Code 0145: Non-ABS Systems
ITEM DATA
Claim Type Recall Claim
Fix ID - Found in Recall Number C
Problem Part Number 72023-51D
Customer Concern Code* 0145
Condition Code 9981
Upon receipt of the properly completed recall claim, you will
be credited 0.2 hours plus the appropriate market administrative
time.
* These items may need to be downloaded to your system.
Table 5. Safety Recall Code 0145: ABS Systems
ITEM DATA
Claim Type Recall Claim
Fix ID - Found in Recall Number F
Problem Part Number 72023-51D
Customer Concern Code* 0145
Condition Code 9982
Upon receipt of the properly completed recall claim, you will
be credited 0.4 hours plus the appropriate market administrative
time.
* These items may need to be downloaded to your system.
Credit Procedure: All Other Warranty Claim
Users
For each vehicle serviced, file a claim supplying all necessary
information as follows:
• Dealer Number
• Repair Order Number
• Claim Date
• Campaign Number (0145)
• Fix ID (C) - Corrected, vehicle - Non-ABS (0.2 hrs)
• Fix ID (F) - Corrected, vehicle - ABS (0.4 hrs)
• Full seventeen character VIN
Upon receipt of the properly completed recall claim, you will
be credited for labor time for performing the safety recall procedure
plus appropriate market administrative time. The safety
recall record will be updated. Each vehicle recall completion
must be filed on an individual claim. Please do not submit additional
warranty events on these claims.
Part Return Information: U.S. Markets
Upon submitting a properly completed recall claim, you will be
credited for labor time for performing the safety recall procedure.
Credit for the kits is not issued as they are sent free-ofcharge
to the dealers. Hold all replaced parts for 60 days from
date of credit issued for possible field inspection and/or request
to return to factory. After 60 days, destroy and discard the
parts.
Part Return Information: Non-U.S. Markets
Contact your local Harley-Davidson service area representative
for instructions.
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NOTE
Customer notification letter will be posted here when approved and prior to its
U.S. mail release.
Customer Recall Reimbursement Request Form-U.S. Market Only
Dealer name ______________________________________________
Dealer number ____________________________________________
Dealership employee contact name ____________________________
VIN __________________________________________________ ___
Customer Name and current mailing address
[must match the name on the repair order]
__________________________________________________ _______
__________________________________________________ _______
__________________________________________________ _______
__________________________________________________ _______
Customer Signature
Before submitting this form, please confirm that the signed, closed out and paid
Repair Order or receipt:
Was issued by an Authorized Harley-Davidson dealer,
Includes a VIN covered in the campaign or dealer verifies customer owns a vehicle
covered in the campaign,
Includes the Part No. of the part used in the replacement,
The repair order must include ALL of the listed items in order to qualify for
reimbursement.
Please fax this completed form and a copy of the customer’s Repair Order to
Harley-Davidson Customer Service at (414) 343-8358.
This request will be processed within 10 business days. All reimbursements will be in
the form of a dealer credit.