What's the deal with PM hubs?
#1
What's the deal with PM hubs?
The return spring on the foot pedal of my pit bull lift broke and ricocheted off of my new Performance Machine single disk hub and left a nice scar on it. Zero miles on the wheel and already a ding. Oh well.
So I call the distributor where I bought the wheel and they will sell and install a new hub, but will not ship the hub to me stating liability reasons. I would have to ship the wheel back to them, have them install the new one and then wait for it to ship back. The distributor is quoting a very fair price, but it is strange that I can not just buy the hub.
So I call another wheel distributor and get the same story. They stated that PM does not like to sell anyone an uninstalled hub. For the life of me I can not understand why I can buy rotors, calipers, spacers, wheels, tires and install all of them myself, but not a hub. What am I missing and why would the liability be greater on a hub not installed by a distributor than it would be on a rotor or caliper not installed by the distributor?
I would think the liability would be greater on the distributor if they did install the hub and it failed. If they don't do the install and something fails they would just be in the same boat as any other parts they sell and don't install....."We didn't install it, so we are not responsible."
What am I missing?
P.S. Pit Bull lifts are great, but the return spring sucks. Word of advice: If you have one go get a good quality spring that's heavier than the one that comes with it. You might be glad you did. This is not a pit bull rant, just want to maybe save someone a ding in the paint or chrome or eye etc.
So I call the distributor where I bought the wheel and they will sell and install a new hub, but will not ship the hub to me stating liability reasons. I would have to ship the wheel back to them, have them install the new one and then wait for it to ship back. The distributor is quoting a very fair price, but it is strange that I can not just buy the hub.
So I call another wheel distributor and get the same story. They stated that PM does not like to sell anyone an uninstalled hub. For the life of me I can not understand why I can buy rotors, calipers, spacers, wheels, tires and install all of them myself, but not a hub. What am I missing and why would the liability be greater on a hub not installed by a distributor than it would be on a rotor or caliper not installed by the distributor?
I would think the liability would be greater on the distributor if they did install the hub and it failed. If they don't do the install and something fails they would just be in the same boat as any other parts they sell and don't install....."We didn't install it, so we are not responsible."
What am I missing?
P.S. Pit Bull lifts are great, but the return spring sucks. Word of advice: If you have one go get a good quality spring that's heavier than the one that comes with it. You might be glad you did. This is not a pit bull rant, just want to maybe save someone a ding in the paint or chrome or eye etc.
#2
I'm assuming they don't want someone installing one of their hubs into another manufacturers (or home built) wheel. As you state, liability is the root of the issue I'm sure. I would think the chances of failure or poor performance are greater on a hub than a rotor, wheel assembly, caliper, etc.
Just a guess.
Zach
Just a guess.
Zach
#3
#4
I'm assuming they don't want someone installing one of their hubs into another manufacturers (or home built) wheel. As you state, liability is the root of the issue I'm sure. I would think the chances of failure or poor performance are greater on a hub than a rotor, wheel assembly, caliper, etc.
Just a guess.
Zach
Just a guess.
Zach
#5
And the thing is it's nothing more than bolts, lock tite, a torque wrench and a star pattern when cinching it down. But I guess the simplicity of it is not really the issue. It's the liability. It's not really that big of a deal at the end of the day, but kinda made my eyes cross because everything I do to my bike could kill me if I did it wrong. Why is that the responsibility of the manufacture? Just think if every manufacture had this concern about every part they made that could fail if installed incorrectly and would only sell it to you if a dealer installed it. Now that would make to moco happy!
#7
PM must have changed their policy since then. Back in 2011 when I originally started this thread PM would not sell me a hub. Neither would coastal moto (and I love that company) no how, no way. I finally got hog pro to do it and all was good. Never have worked so hard to get someone to take my money tho!
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