Quote on 98ci upgrade....deal or no deal? You decide !!
#14
Wow way to high to me. But I live in Iowa. My opinion if it counts, its not worth it to thin the cylinders out to a 98". A 95" motor will produce more power than you'll ever need, you can get it 100hp and 100tq and still be very street able. Find a good indy that knows how to work your stock heads over and believe me you will be happy. And you should be able to get it all done for around $3500 tops, check around.
#17
i saw a 2009 twin cam motor, in like new shape at a swap meet a few weeks ago for 1800 bucks. don't throw money into your 88" motor when you can get a brand new engine for less than the quote you got for building your motor. ultima from jireh cycles.com has great prices on their motors. shop around, you can get a lot more bang for the buck and still get a brand new engine. selling your engine will give you back some money. this is the direction that makes the most sense.
#18
Looks like a good price for an HQ 98" build that also includes the cams, VPC, programmed ingition, and labor for installation. If Kevin from Pro-Twin is doing the installation, you'll have a powerful, efficient and enjoyable ride for many miles to come.
One note concerning the parts list. The cams are listed as chain drive, but you're also including the gear drive kit. That's not right. I'd be inclined to go with the chain drive cams and the SE cam plate and high volume oil pump with the hydraulic tensioners; similar in price to the gear drive kit, but you get a new cam plate, better oil pump, and no issues with crank runout.
Good luck with your project.
Carl
One note concerning the parts list. The cams are listed as chain drive, but you're also including the gear drive kit. That's not right. I'd be inclined to go with the chain drive cams and the SE cam plate and high volume oil pump with the hydraulic tensioners; similar in price to the gear drive kit, but you get a new cam plate, better oil pump, and no issues with crank runout.
Good luck with your project.
Carl
#19
I have a 2000 Ultra, stock 88 Carbed.
I wanted to beef it up so I went in and got a quote for some engine work. I'll list everything that he's quoted me on and the price at the bottom If the majority feels this is a good deal i'll go with it. If you have a better less expensive route i'm all ears.
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• Head Quarters engraved timer cover
Engine Package...........2638.93
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• Gear Drive Install Kit, HQ, TC
• Gear Drive Kit, HQ Gears, TC
• Ignition, Programmable, TC 99-03
• Jets, CV Kit, high comp TC
• O Ring, Cam Plate to case, 2 required
• VPC Clutch Pressure Plate
• Oring, oil pump to cam plate, 99-06 TC
• O-ring, Oil/Trans plug
• O-ring, Primary Drain Plug
• Primary cover gasket, 94-06 Touring/Dyna
• Oil Filter, HD Super Premium 5 Chrome
• Oil Amsoil 20W50 Synthetic
• Gasket, Exhaust Performance
• Cam Bearing, inner, Torrington Style 99-06 TC
Misc Parts...........1014.72
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adjustment, primary chain adjustment), tune carb and ignition
Labor.............1660.00 (20.75 hrs @ 80/hr)
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Grand total Parts, Labor, Taxes.....5313.65
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I wanted to beef it up so I went in and got a quote for some engine work. I'll list everything that he's quoted me on and the price at the bottom If the majority feels this is a good deal i'll go with it. If you have a better less expensive route i'm all ears.
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Head Quarters 98" Sport Touring Package
This Premium Performance Package includes:
This Premium Performance Package includes:
• All parts and labor for complete headwork
• Heads are fully ported to Head Quarters HVP (High Velocity Port)
standards
• New 1.900" intake and 1.625" high tuliped valves by HQ
• Custom fit manganese bronze valve guides by HQ
• Fully radiused valve job
• High performance/heavy duty dual coil valve springs with titanium
retainers by HQ
• Viton valve stem seals
• Calibrated valve seat pressures
• Machined for 1 manual compression release per head
Compression releases
• Head gaskets
• Cylinder boring and honing - custom fitting pistons
• Lightweight forged pistons
• HQ575 chain drive cams
• Ez install pushrods and conversion tubes
• HQ Premium Black Ops lifters
• Top end gasket set (you will need to purchase your cam cover and
oil compartment related o-rings separately unless you are
purchasing gear drive install kit)• Heads are fully ported to Head Quarters HVP (High Velocity Port)
standards
• New 1.900" intake and 1.625" high tuliped valves by HQ
• Custom fit manganese bronze valve guides by HQ
• Fully radiused valve job
• High performance/heavy duty dual coil valve springs with titanium
retainers by HQ
• Viton valve stem seals
• Calibrated valve seat pressures
• Machined for 1 manual compression release per head
Compression releases
• Head gaskets
• Cylinder boring and honing - custom fitting pistons
• Lightweight forged pistons
• HQ575 chain drive cams
• Ez install pushrods and conversion tubes
• HQ Premium Black Ops lifters
• Top end gasket set (you will need to purchase your cam cover and
oil compartment related o-rings separately unless you are
• Head Quarters engraved timer cover
Engine Package...........2638.93
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• Gear Drive Install Kit, HQ, TC
• Gear Drive Kit, HQ Gears, TC
• Ignition, Programmable, TC 99-03
• Jets, CV Kit, high comp TC
• O Ring, Cam Plate to case, 2 required
• VPC Clutch Pressure Plate
• Oring, oil pump to cam plate, 99-06 TC
• O-ring, Oil/Trans plug
• O-ring, Primary Drain Plug
• Primary cover gasket, 94-06 Touring/Dyna
• Oil Filter, HD Super Premium 5 Chrome
• Oil Amsoil 20W50 Synthetic
• Gasket, Exhaust Performance
• Cam Bearing, inner, Torrington Style 99-06 TC
Misc Parts...........1014.72
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Rebuild engine with top end and cams, replace inner cam bearings,
install VPC clutch pressure plate, service engine (oil/filter change),
transmission (oil change), and primary (oil change, clutch
install VPC clutch pressure plate, service engine (oil/filter change),
transmission (oil change), and primary (oil change, clutch
adjustment, primary chain adjustment), tune carb and ignition
Labor.............1660.00 (20.75 hrs @ 80/hr)
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Grand total Parts, Labor, Taxes.....5313.65
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Seriously, a "deal" is a relative term. I am in a fairly similar position with my 05 RK, and before I spend that kind of jack, I will put that 5K toward a new/newer bike with a 96" or a 103". I think there are much cheaper way of extracting more from your engine. I put cams in mine, and that helped a great deal.....until I got used to them! I do ride with guys on 103" engines, and that's my problem; they still have more pull than I do, and the 6th gear they have makes cruising at high speeds moch more comfortable/easy for them then it is for me. If you haven't considered cams, it's not a bad bang for the buck. They really did make a big difference in my bike. I am considering a big bore now, but if I can't get it done for around $1200, I am just going to save for a much newer if not new bike. It's going to be close.
Again, "deal" is relative. If you're in love with your bike, and wont miss the $5K, you will certianly get a BIG boost out of your current engine.
#20
Sounds steep...
Just finished a big bore / gear drive myself. While I'z that deep... added stator, upgraded primary tensioner, clutch cable & ez pull, fuel filter, PCIII, and Rhinehart slip ons. No labor, as I spin my own wrenches. Around 3k.
Asked Harlypingman 'bout a good tuner in Atl area...reffered me to a dude.
If it's the same guy (Kevin) @ Pro-Twin...he chore knows his chit!!!
My machine work was accomplished in Ft. Worth...been doing air cooled for 37 years. They've done testing on the 98" and don't recommend quite that big...depending on the individual jugs, may have heat spots. His kit takes 'em from 88"s to 96"s.
All in all...it's your $$$... make yourself happy!
Beav
Just finished a big bore / gear drive myself. While I'z that deep... added stator, upgraded primary tensioner, clutch cable & ez pull, fuel filter, PCIII, and Rhinehart slip ons. No labor, as I spin my own wrenches. Around 3k.
Asked Harlypingman 'bout a good tuner in Atl area...reffered me to a dude.
If it's the same guy (Kevin) @ Pro-Twin...he chore knows his chit!!!
My machine work was accomplished in Ft. Worth...been doing air cooled for 37 years. They've done testing on the 98" and don't recommend quite that big...depending on the individual jugs, may have heat spots. His kit takes 'em from 88"s to 96"s.
All in all...it's your $$$... make yourself happy!
Beav