NB O2 sensors necessary w/ PCV?
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NB O2 sensors necessary w/ PCV?
I purchased the Fuel Moto Stage 1 kit with the FM 2-1-2 headpipe. Since I got the PCV with it, do I need to transfer over the O2 sensors from the old headpipe or can I just put the bungs in?
I Don't mind transfering them but don't feel the need to deal with it if there is no benefit (IE the signal they provide is disregarded with the PCV system). Also will removing them cause a CEL?
I did a search, but didn't come up with a clear answer. Most of the talk was about Narrow band vs. wide band.
Thanks!
I Don't mind transfering them but don't feel the need to deal with it if there is no benefit (IE the signal they provide is disregarded with the PCV system). Also will removing them cause a CEL?
I did a search, but didn't come up with a clear answer. Most of the talk was about Narrow band vs. wide band.
Thanks!
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Are you running AT?
If you are not running AT, the PCV does not use the sensors. The PCV should have gave you jumpers for the O2 input to the ECM.
If you are planning to use AT in the future with the PCV you will get wide band sensors to replace the stock (narrow band) sensors.
You can leave the stock sensors or replace with plugs if not using AT. As someone mentioned, if you pull them, dont drop them, and put antiseize on whatever you put in the sensor hole.
If you are planning to use AT in the future with the PCV you will get wide band sensors to replace the stock (narrow band) sensors.
You can leave the stock sensors or replace with plugs if not using AT. As someone mentioned, if you pull them, dont drop them, and put antiseize on whatever you put in the sensor hole.
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OK, so I got the header on and I'm having a few complications with the rest (aren't there ALWAYS complications?).
1. I can't get the small bracket that supports the cross over pipe up enough to thread it into the hole. It like it won't slide right enough for the flat part that the bracket fits around is aligned with the hole. The bracket has a hard time closing since where the hole is, the cross over starts to become less flat again.
2. The right side muffler is dangerously close to the rear axle bolt. I'd say is is around 1mm of clearance so if there were any dip in the road and the suspension extended, it would surely contact the muffler.
I should mention that this is the Jackpot 2-1-2 header and Jackpot Dyno Tuned mufflers. Is there a way to adjust everything to it fits better or is my header maybe out of spec? It seems that once you tighten the pipes into the exhaust studs, the position is pretty much set.
Thoughts?
1. I can't get the small bracket that supports the cross over pipe up enough to thread it into the hole. It like it won't slide right enough for the flat part that the bracket fits around is aligned with the hole. The bracket has a hard time closing since where the hole is, the cross over starts to become less flat again.
2. The right side muffler is dangerously close to the rear axle bolt. I'd say is is around 1mm of clearance so if there were any dip in the road and the suspension extended, it would surely contact the muffler.
I should mention that this is the Jackpot 2-1-2 header and Jackpot Dyno Tuned mufflers. Is there a way to adjust everything to it fits better or is my header maybe out of spec? It seems that once you tighten the pipes into the exhaust studs, the position is pretty much set.
Thoughts?
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A couple options;
If you have snugged up any part of the system, loosen all attachment points and loose fit the entire system to get the clearences you need. Keep in mind that the Jackpot mufflers don't have the indentures that the stock mufflers had so you will be closer in that regard.
Option two would be to install the crossover pipe in the bracket before you insert the header and the muffler. Then loose fit and finalize your installation.
The FuelMoto parts fit so don't get discouraged.
If you have snugged up any part of the system, loosen all attachment points and loose fit the entire system to get the clearences you need. Keep in mind that the Jackpot mufflers don't have the indentures that the stock mufflers had so you will be closer in that regard.
Option two would be to install the crossover pipe in the bracket before you insert the header and the muffler. Then loose fit and finalize your installation.
The FuelMoto parts fit so don't get discouraged.
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OK, so I got the header on and I'm having a few complications with the rest (aren't there ALWAYS complications?).
1. I can't get the small bracket that supports the cross over pipe up enough to thread it into the hole. It like it won't slide right enough for the flat part that the bracket fits around is aligned with the hole. The bracket has a hard time closing since where the hole is, the cross over starts to become less flat again.
2. The right side muffler is dangerously close to the rear axle bolt. I'd say is is around 1mm of clearance so if there were any dip in the road and the suspension extended, it would surely contact the muffler.
I should mention that this is the Jackpot 2-1-2 header and Jackpot Dyno Tuned mufflers. Is there a way to adjust everything to it fits better or is my header maybe out of spec? It seems that once you tighten the pipes into the exhaust studs, the position is pretty much set.
Thoughts?
1. I can't get the small bracket that supports the cross over pipe up enough to thread it into the hole. It like it won't slide right enough for the flat part that the bracket fits around is aligned with the hole. The bracket has a hard time closing since where the hole is, the cross over starts to become less flat again.
2. The right side muffler is dangerously close to the rear axle bolt. I'd say is is around 1mm of clearance so if there were any dip in the road and the suspension extended, it would surely contact the muffler.
I should mention that this is the Jackpot 2-1-2 header and Jackpot Dyno Tuned mufflers. Is there a way to adjust everything to it fits better or is my header maybe out of spec? It seems that once you tighten the pipes into the exhaust studs, the position is pretty much set.
Thoughts?
For the crossover support to line up you will need to get the head pipe positioned properly first by loosening the mounting bolt at the transmission leaving it loose until you are finished, this will allow you to adjust the pipe away from the motor. This will give the muffler slighly more clearance as well, the muffler will be close to the axle bolt but it will not touch. For installing the crossover and hinge clamp you will rotate the pipe at a downward angle (oulet toward the rear of the bike and pointing downward) and then slide it on the headpipe outlet (be careful not to damage the gasket) when it is slid together simply rotate the pipe up and into place. Also make sure you are using the OEM tapered style exhaust gaskets.
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Jamie Long / Fuel Moto USA
The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
Contact 920-423-3309
Email jamie@fuelmotousa.com
Last edited by fuelmoto; 02-26-2011 at 09:45 AM.
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