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UPDATE - LED Head Light Comparison JW/HD & TL

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Old 05-01-2011 | 09:40 AM
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I like the TL lights. I have the headlight (original one) and the passing lights.

A couple observations...

The passing lights are a slightly whiter light than the headlight. In comparison, the headlight's light has a green tinge.

the passing lights light up everything, not just the road. Street signs that are reflective, light up like magic a long way ahead. My neighborhood has subdued lighting with street lights only at intersections, so the effect of lighting up signs is dramatic.

I would actually prefer to have the light directed more to the road but other vehicles notice that you are there. No one has flashed headlights so I don't know if they are just being Texas friendly or if the lights are not bothering oncoming traffic.

I really want to rewire them to stay on with high beam. Switching to high beam puts light from the headlight's light farther down the road but it gets dark with the passing lights out.
 
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Old 05-01-2011 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by gbinman
I like the TL lights. I have the headlight (original one) and the passing lights.

A couple observations...

The passing lights are a slightly whiter light than the headlight. In comparison, the headlight's light has a green tinge.

the passing lights light up everything, not just the road. Street signs that are reflective, light up like magic a long way ahead. My neighborhood has subdued lighting with street lights only at intersections, so the effect of lighting up signs is dramatic.

I would actually prefer to have the light directed more to the road but other vehicles notice that you are there. No one has flashed headlights so I don't know if they are just being Texas friendly or if the lights are not bothering oncoming traffic.

I really want to rewire them to stay on with high beam. Switching to high beam puts light from the headlight's light farther down the road but it gets dark with the passing lights out.
Simple solution. Switch the green and red wire on the headlight and the 10 LEDs will stay on when switch on low beam and passing lamp switch will still work. Only downfall is on high beam switch, the light then goes to the 6 LEDs and no passing lamps.
 
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Old 05-01-2011 | 08:46 PM
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Will I be able to run a headlight modulator with the TL LED bulb?
 
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Old 05-02-2011 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sport King
What does the profile of the passing lamps look like ?
Do they protrude also like the 7 in headlight .
Thats whats holding me back . Maybe TL will come out with a model 7 that fits like a stock light .
Can that not be done ?
If you look in my previous post picture of the Truck Lite headlight with the frenched ring you can see my sunspot passing lights from custom dynamics. They have the frenched rings also.
 
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Old 05-02-2011 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by joflewbyu2
Simple solution. Switch the green and red wire on the headlight and the 10 LEDs will stay on when switch on low beam and passing lamp switch will still work. Only downfall is on high beam switch, the light then goes to the 6 LEDs and no passing lamps.


That's simple... but doesn't go where I want. I have seen and noted a couple rewiring solutions. HD's delivered to other countries depending on local restrictions don't dip the passing lights on high beam... that's a US requirement.

A strange one when cars (4 headlight) can have 4 lamps illuminated in addition to driving/fog lights.

Perhaps motorcycles are considered to be half of a car?
 
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Old 05-09-2011 | 11:24 PM
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I have finally been able to do some night riding and all i can say about the TL headlight and the Sunspot passing lamps is WOW! The difference from the stock lighting is amazing.
 
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Old 05-10-2011 | 02:35 AM
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Thanks for the info guys!!
Ride safe
 
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Old 05-10-2011 | 07:33 AM
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Be careful judging the pictures of the front of the bike with the headlights on. The brightness of the day changed, or the camera exposure changed inappropriately. If you look at the ground under the tire or the wall behind the bike you will see it is much brighter for the HD lights shots.

Looking at the garage patterns, it appears the HD light is more similar to halogen. However, I wonder if that light spread test is done too close and doesn't give enough space for the light to spread correctly. I say that because the real world test had a different result. Also in the garage, they should have locked the camera settings in, maybe they did, but they don't say.

Look at the real world test. The TL lights up the deer and the large sign on the left in the high beam test. The HD lights up the deer, but not the sign. The Halogens don't light the deer but light the sign.

When I turn on a high beam, I want to see objects in a location similar to the large sign on a left, for instance a still alive deer about to jump out in front of me.
 
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Old 05-26-2011 | 02:53 PM
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Sorry all... apparently my instant notice of a reply (and PMs) is malfunctioning...

The shots IN the garage were taken with fixed settings. The photos outside the garage (daylight) were not fixed (sorry...).

We tried doing a video while riding at night, but the nature of the LED lights and night videography made the video less than enlightening (sorry 'bout the pun).

I agree, the passing lamps have a slightly different color appearance when close up. But the combination is really noticeable, day or night. In a group ride, I love having my buddy with all three LEDs ride tail - I can make a quick glance in the mirror and see him, no matter if the pack is 5 bikes or 15 - the bright white light stands out.

I have also not had anyone flashing at me... so I assume the lights are not that bothersome to oncoming traffic (and folks here in IL are not shy about flashing).

@Sandy Mike - big difference when you see the stock passing lamps next to the LED headlight. Your description is very accurate. My wife first got just the headlight - took her, oh, about 2 seconds to order the passing lamps...

@ gbinman - shoot me a PM with your email address and I'll send you a PDF I have with a couple of different ways to do the 'passing lamps on with high beam' wiring.

@ pelonz - we are testing modulators... I chose the pathBlazer because it's made in the USA (www.kisantech.com). The first test with their model for H4 bulbs didn't work quite right - it actually flashed the LED headlights (both versions) on and off completely. Got a couple of people to pull off the road for us - oops... So the manufacturer did some re-programming and the one I now have installed works correctly. Its physically the same as their P115W, but the programming is for LEDs. Contact Andy there and tell him I referred you. Watch for the full review shortly...

@ foundryratjim - so, was my description of riding at night being "like riding in my own patch of sunshine" reasonably accurate? Amazing. The Sun Spots and TL passing lamps are neck&neck on performance - but the TL's can be had for $50 less each...

Ride safe, Ride bright!
 
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Old 05-26-2011 | 03:13 PM
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Thank you for the update. The information was an eye opener and may have saved me 500+ bucks. If I'm not going to be able to be seen in the daylight hours it's a deal breaker for me. Bummer, because at night those HD lights are bright.
 


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